Let's talk about patch 8.11

Kalikain·May 8, 2018·2 votes·1,567 views

So, after really thinking about the changes to items in this patch. Lets stay with ADC's instead 0f theorycrafting yi/yasuo/darius etc..

Old build was Infinity edge/2 zeal items = 80% crit, 20% increased crit dmg New build is Infinity edge/2 zeal items = 100% crit, portion of dmg is now true damage.

Woh, this is going to destroy the tank meta and now adcs are going to have way more damage than before.

Combine that with the new item Stormrazor, everytime you crit, you gain attack speed and movement speed.

Essentially, you'll have unstoppable damage, and be able to chase anyone down you want, or kite anyone you want. ADC meta INCOMING! Goodbye tank meta, true damage kiting is coming to a rift NEAR YOU!

10 Comments

AptestMay 8, 20182 votes

Tank meta being destroyed means top laners and junglers will be much more predisposed towards damage builds, decreasing the overall influence of adcs in games.

LilxPaprikaMay 8, 20181 votes

I really like it. I think there are maybe a few kinks that the PBE might not of catched will need to be ironed out but if they are delt with properly I hope this new patch is here to stay for a while going forward.

My only grip so far is that item 3046 item 3087 ... will cost 2800 from 2600 :( Anyone who liked to build those items on their own, will likely no longer do so. Granted StormRazor is the new go to item for non I.E. users.

KalikainMay 8, 20181 votes

400g for 20% more crit and true damage is a really nice trade off

D357R0Y3RMay 8, 20184 votes

yea if we forget that the 20% crit comes after 25 min sure

Critmaster GarenMay 8, 20182 votes

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My only grip so far is that ... will cost 2800 from 2600 :(

that the patch is supposed to nerf adc in the long run.

theyre supposed to have less midgame impact (hence the cost increase), less impact on objectives, and its supposed to set up a couple of changes that should make other champion classes viable in the duo lane, next to a support.

the main problem right now, is that they need to scale the true damage on infinity edge down. the breaking point where marksmen deal more damage with this new infinity edge compared to the old one is still below 100 armor, which is definitely far too low. it should be more around 150 armor, since most tanks scale higher than that, and 150 to 200 armor are the higher values that a lot of fighters get.

LilxPaprikaMay 8, 20181 votes

well making I.E. cost 3900 would still achieve this. item 3087 etc are just okay on their own, no more than any other offensive ad items. Even if they made them cost 2700 instead of 2800 and IE was 3800gold it would make more sense

ya come late game ADCs I fear will still be too strong.

Critmaster GarenMay 8, 20181 votes

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well making I.E. cost 3900 would still achieve this. etc are just okay on their own, no more than any other offensive ad items. Even if they made them cost 2700 instead of 2800 and IE was 3800gold it would make more sense

ya come late game ADCs I fear will still be too strong.

if they would only make i.e. more expensive, then adc mains would probably just go stormrazor into double zeal and complain for month on end, until riot finally gives in and makes i.e. cheap again, and were back to square one.

LilxPaprikaMay 8, 20181 votes

well zeal would have to still cost 1200. Because IE has to have a crit item before it, the two items together remain just as expensive.

their complaints would not be valid. it's an 80 IQ complaint.

Riot needs to stop giving in to them.

I will say that Stormrazor does make this a lot more tolerable. It does come at the cost of adding an item, however. Not sure if Riot is okay with increasing the item count. You do not want too many. Like if Stormrazor means there's this other cool item we could have instead for a role that might need it more, then I'm not that fond of it. we have a lot of melee adc items to choose from already.

LilxPaprikaMay 8, 20181 votes

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Lets stay with ADC's instead 0f theorycrafting yi/yasuo/darius etc..

you can't just keep the discussion to ADCs for a patch like this. This patch is just as much about theorycrafting MasterYi Yasuo TwistedFate Shyvana Udyr ...etc as it is about ADCs. In fact the nerfs to ADCs were precisely to give those heroes room to strut their stuff XD.

ADCs will still be the powerhouse we know of today but only towards the late game. What is nice though is that it gives other champions a fighting chance. It will likely be harder to snowball to get there too.

item 3072 on Riven might be viable again remember when Irelia used to use BT? as a result people might find more use out of item 3123 summoner 14 item 3165

TheGreatNinxMay 8, 20181 votes

Yea they said they are gonna be tank busters while not so much on squishes. So it supposed to be like this ADC kill > Tanks (top or top n jungle) Mid lane kills adc and assassins > Jungle kills mages and assassins > Top kills jungler and mages sometimes assassins(depends on the assassin) but any class can kill any other class if you play it right.