Kogmaw and Corki should hav their passives switched

GrReaper96··75 votes·14,611 views

Kogmaw aa should deal half magic damage. He build is mostly catered to him dealing magic damage with his w and other skills. Heck he even builds item 3091 .

Corki as an AP spellslinger is mostly just a gimmick. Change his skills from AP to AD and the only thing he would change in his build is item 3020 . Plus, as a kamikaze plane rider it makes sense for his plane to explode upon death.

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Orange Caramel75 votes

Make it so corki's explosion does bonus damage to towers, especially the two nexus towers

Sharp Chedarr3 votes

XD holy shit have my up vote lmfao

YumaS2Astral31 votes

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Make it so corki's explosion does bonus damage to towers, especially the two nexus towers

https://i.imgur.com/RyFeHPB.png

Pandemic Punch2 votes

Llllllllloooooooooooooollllllllll

HeimerLmao2 votes

My thoughts exaclty. You stole my comment, but still, have an upvote.

Cowgirl Ed6 votes

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Make it so corki's explosion does bonus damage to towers, especially the two nexus towers

lmfaoooooooooooooooo

Marothennan4 votes

making 9/11 corki viable

Jeddy0174 votes

Holy Scuttle Crab, this fucker went there. For that, take my upvote.

xxxDogmanxxx3 votes

Time to make a new smurf just to upvote you more.

iamsmurfing01015 votes

and deal bonus damage while in Bush.

Akali Prime16 votes

when i read this i thought, "ya lets just give him a 9/11 skin while we're at it" sarcastically "his recall animation can even be crashing into two tow-" then it hit me

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

it was a 9/11 joke all along

The Space Cowboy2 votes

In b4 mods.

Velzard of Koz5 votes

It's an inside joke

OHminus1 votes

Gameplay boards: Uhhhh noo that would just increase snowball. Towers are already weak. WTF are you thinking?

Jaygo411 votes

This is outta pocket

SpyKayle1 votes

Marry me, fuck that was good.

Rıots Bad Client16 votes

I disagree.

But I think Kog'Maw should have a different passive. A passive that rewards for dying and is just bad. (Unless your name is Karthus)

Danjeng2 votes

It doesn't reward dying. It is a fallback mechanism so that if Kog'Maw somehow gets bursted down early in a team fight, he can still be relevant. Rather, it dissuades enemy from killing him, so in that sense it may even make it harder to kill him.

Anu3isII7 votes

That simply is not true. The amount of Damage his passive deals is minuscule compared to his Damage output when alive. His main counterplay is bursting him as soon as possible, before he gets to DPS everyone down. That is why "Juggermaw" team comps appeared, only to protect him while he murders everyone ONLY by himself.

When asked about new passives for Kog and old Zyra, Riot generally said that their current passives have such small power budget, that swapping them with something "more fitting" would unavoidably lead to number tweaks/nerfs to their kits.

To conclude, his Passive doesn't reward dying, nor it makes him a target to avoid (only Karthus really does that, but his only downside is that he becomes immobile while having the same Damage output). It simply is such a weak Passive, that rarely makes a difference and does not fit the champion at all.

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

Specifically, Riot considers Kog and old Zyra passive to be "free power" because their kits were strong already. Bonuses aren't always meant to be a buff, sometimes they're just a balancing lever.

Other popular examples of this include:

  • Cait's 20% bonus AS, which lets her actually function before items.
  • Yasuo's reduced crit damage, which lowers his late-game DPS (relative).
  • Pyke's health/damage conversion, ensuring he is always squishy.
  • Shyvana's and Karma's passives basically being part of their ults.
PrinceOfStorms2 votes

Shyv not so much now because its effects are not increased during her R

Anu3isII1 votes

I personally am OK with bonuses as long as they are coupled with "real" bonuses, resulting in a balance lever for the initial passive.

Cait has Headshot as her main passive and to balance that Riot lowered her Base Attack Speed and gave her that bonus so that she doesn't Attack as fast as any Crit Carry in the Late Game while maintaining a balanced Early Game.

Yasuo has the Double-Crit, which speeds up his powerspike while trading his Late Game DPS of a Crit Carry. While he is overloaded, his Passive Shield covers the "boring" bonus from his Passive.

Pyke has the Grey bar, which would be broken if he went Tanky, so making him always squishy would lead to a higher risk/higher reward champ by offering him Damage over HP.

Shyvana's and Karma's in my opinion should be moved to their ultimates and replaced with almost anything. They simply don't feel rewarding or unique in any way, at least compared to the bonuses above.

I don't think Passives have to be core parts of champions, but they should at least feel like they have somewhat of an individual impact from a kit or at least enchant it. If it lacks both, then it is kinda doomed from the start to be insignificant.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

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That simply is not true. The amount of Damage his passive deals is minuscule compared to his Damage output when alive. His main counterplay is bursting him as soon as possible, before he gets to DPS everyone down. That is why "Juggermaw" team comps appeared, only to protect him while he murders everyone ONLY by himself.

When asked about new passives for Kog and old Zyra, Riot generally said that their current passives have such small power budget, that swapping them with something "more fitting" would unavoidably lead to number tweaks/nerfs to their kits.

To conclude, his Passive doesn't reward dying, nor it makes him a target to avoid (only Karthus really does that, but his only downside is that he becomes immobile while having the same Damage output). It simply is such a weak Passive, that rarely makes a difference and does not fit the champion at all.

well the figured out how to give Zyra a new passive heres to hoping they eventually Figure Kog out

Rahul Tamish8 votes

Corki did 9/ 11 Corki

FilDaFunk6 votes

Kog'maw with long range valkyrie - fly in and obliterates everyone. jk

RekSai CoffeeCo3 votes

Yeah but how would Kog maw use the package?

Warlord Rhinark22 votes

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Yeah but how would Kog maw use the package?

Eat some beans or something I guess.

Wacky93 votes

Garlic maybe or chili peppers

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Monarch Kog'Maw becomes his base skin.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

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Yeah but how would Kog maw use the package?

well they could actually make use of his supposed theme "Mouth of the Abyss" cause the lil guy NEVER EATS ANYTHING ingame

the package could be either some dead forest animal or some "Void meat" that Kog'Maw eats then gets some MS for a duration, and it would buff the next ability used with extra damage and range.

MooooooooreDakka1 votes

Are you saying you wouldn't want to see Pug Maw running around with giant rockets strapped to him?

FlameHalbrdOkido3 votes

Oh and while ur at it switch Malphite's and Rammus' ultimates,

(then buff Malphite's ult a bit so it knocks up enemies everytime they take enough dmg)

Cause it makes more since for a walking mountains mere footsteps to create earthquakes dealing damage to nearby people and structures,

And Malphites ult makes more since for Rammus

Phyuq Yiu2 votes

Makes sence.

Crimson Zeppelin2 votes

prepare for the oneshot pentakill kamikaze passive montages.

Need Gold 4 Tent2 votes

Make kog passive scale with ap hehehe

ZackTheWaffleMan2 votes

THAT IS AMAZING

KFCeytron2 votes

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Kogmaw aa should deal half magic damage. He build is mostly catered to him dealing magic damage with his w and other skills. Heck he even builds item 3091 .

Corki as an AP spellslinger is mostly just a gimmick. Change his skills from AP to AD and the only thing he would change in his build is item 3020 . Plus, as a kamikaze plane rider it makes sense for his plane to explode upon death.

Change Sorc Shoes? To what? People already built that on Corki before his update, because the boost to his ult's damage was better than the bonuses from other shoes. In fact, the update was pretty much Riot going "you know what? let's just go with that magic damage, yolo" and making Corki's kit more appropriate to the way people already built him.

Z3Sleeper2 votes

Hmmm... Kog Maw with Package... I could see it.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

I lol'd

Solidair31 votes

Disagree. Why decrease the amount of magic damage marksmen? I don't think they need lower numbers, they're already small.

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