Now that we finally nerfed janna...

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And who the hell are you a nobody that puts ranked into conversations?

A better player than you.

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Wow, just because I'm lower ranked you assume my thoughts/ opinions are invalid. Below I've listed why I think these are great against a Thresh. Thresh is pretty balanced over all.

Why frankly this is such a sad argument I don't want to get into it,the short version is:

1. yeah sure thing buddy,the op bullshit which more than doubles any other supports pickrate is balanced.
2. I'm sure that if this op bullshit actually had meaningful counters,people wouldn't be so eager to first pick it competitive or otherwise.

Lulu - really good poke, shields, and polymorph over all really great peel.

With targons thresh will run her out of mana before she runs him out of hp,yeah,poke supports are considered bad for a reason,one hook on her or her carry and he will probably still get a kill,she also has very limited options if you decide to roam(and yeah,that's a thing),on top of you just bringing more utility with your bloated kit once laning is done.

Alistar - E and Q to engage or disengage, if he is decent you won't be able to keep near the carry

Easy poke for ages,as he can't retaliate,a hook on his carry might not mean death,but two hooks will,and best part? he can't really punish you for missing them.

Jana - so much peel Thresh can't even Flay the adc you might be able to AA it though

a hook on her or her adc will still hurt or result in a kill,she doesn't have very good tools to punish you and after her latest nerfs it's much harder for her to deal with your roam/compete in general.

Morg - 50 year snare with a large hit box, spell shield, and a really good ulti.

Your hook moves fast and doesn't telegraph its direction,confuse her as to who the target is going to be,a landed hook should mean a kill,and it's still very hard for her to punish you even if you keep missing them.

Against all of these you have to be aware of their cool downs. I don't know how many times I've seen a bot lane lose because the didn't keep track of Lulu's poly, Ali's combo, Jana tornado, and Morg's snare.

Why do you think Thresh is OP/ not balanced?

Probably has something to do with him being in every game competitive or otherwise,since his fucking release,what kind of deranged lunatic will think this bloated garbage is balanced at this point? There's been overwhelming evidence that they guy is still completely above his competition,and every time somebody dares challenge him that guy gets nerfed.

Feel free to disregard everything if you please.

Of course I will,thresh mains seems to have all gone insane with their love for free elo.

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Wow, just because I'm lower ranked you assume my thoughts/ opinions are invalid. Below I've listed why I think these are great against a Thresh. Thresh is pretty balanced over all.

Lulu - really good poke, shields, and polymorph over all really great peel.

Alistar - E and Q to engage or disengage, if he is decent you won't be able to keep near the carry

Jana - so much peel Thresh can't even Flay the adc you might be able to AA it though

Morg - 50 year snare with a large hit box, spell shield, and a really good ulti.

Against all of these you have to be aware of their cool downs. I don't know how many times I've seen a bot lane lose because the didn't keep track of Lulu's poly, Ali's combo, Jana tornado, and Morg's snare.

Why do you think Thresh is OP/ not balanced?

Feel free to disregard everything if you please.

One q basically can decide the lane. Once he Q's you he can flay to delay you even further. His kit is just better so that's why he's used over everyone else. Too bad he's squishy early..... oh wait souls and his generally tanky build means later in the game he's an off tank :/ QQ. I'm just salty about thresh oh well. Waiting for his nerfs////////

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Wow, just because I'm lower ranked you assume my thoughts/ opinions are invalid. Below I've listed why I think these are great against a Thresh. Thresh is pretty balanced over all.

Lulu - really good poke, shields, and polymorph over all really great peel.

Alistar - E and Q to engage or disengage, if he is decent you won't be able to keep near the carry

Jana - so much peel Thresh can't even Flay the adc you might be able to AA it though

Morg - 50 year snare with a large hit box, spell shield, and a really good ulti.

Against all of these you have to be aware of their cool downs. I don't know how many times I've seen a bot lane lose because the didn't keep track of Lulu's poly, Ali's combo, Jana tornado, and Morg's snare.

Why do you think Thresh is OP/ not balanced?

Feel free to disregard everything if you please.

Actually, I think only Pro players have valid opinions in ranked.