Dear RiotRepertoir, Tyler1 says"Mid mages are the most broken role in the game, ADCs have no impact"

341123545652·3/14/2018, 6:30:07 PM·10 votes·1,788 views

Last night during a 12 hour (correct me if im wrong on the time) tyler1 went on a massive 30 minute long rant screaming (literally) about how mid lane mages are the most broken and easy role in the game and how ADC is the worst role in the game and feels complete garbage to play as (ill link vod at the end).

Some of the things he said, I have quoted in very accurate paraphrasing (I will use caps because he was quite literally screaming the whole time):

-"ONE PATCH WHERE MID LANERS DONT HAVE THE SPOTLIGHT, RIOT REWORKS THEIR ITEMS TO BE OVERPOWERED, MID HAS ALWAYS BEEN RIOTS FAVORITE CHILD" -"IF MID CAN HAVE 40% CDR FOR FREE, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR ABILITY TO AUTO ATTACK REMOVED" -tyler1 while raging also died to the top laner a few times so he went on to say "SOLO LANERS DECIDE THE COMPLETE FLOW OF THE GAME , BOT LANE DOESNT MATTER" -"HASHINSHIN SAID ADC IS THE MOST BROKEN ROLE AND TOP IS BAD? IF I EVER SEE HIM ILL FUCKIN PUNCH HIM" (no joke I believe he threatened to punch dom for saying something similar as well) -went on to mouse over seraphs and talk about how overloaded broken the item is -"ALL THIS SYNDRA HAS TO DO IS PRESS R ON ME, WOW SO MUCH SKILL , SO MUCH COUNTERPLAY, LOOK SHES OUTPLAYING EVERYONE, EVERY MAGE IS LIKE THIS" -"ALL A MID LANER HAS TO DO TO COUNTER ADC IS BUILD TABIS, THE MOST BROKEN ITEM IN THE GAME, WHY CANT ADCS DO THAT? MAKE MERC TREADS REDUCE ALL MAGIC DAMAGE TAKEN BY 15% THEN WE WILL BE BALANCED"

Plus much much more at : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/238440418 ^ go to the exact 11 hour mark when he enters champ select and picks varus. He starts off light with some frustrated thoughts about tabis but as the game goes on, he starts screaming. You can also watch the game before where he is getting dove by a mid lane vlad as draven or the game after where he picks orianna mid to "prove mid is broken" but ends up going 1-3 in lane with 40 cs at 10 mins and having 0 impact on the game with all his missed ultis but its all ok cause his bot lane caitlyn stomped so they won anyway. The varus game where the "syndra was showing how cancer mid lane is" also had a 12-1 xayah on the enemy team ironically.

So now the reason why I titled this toward RiotRepertoir. My concern here is among the 25 thousand people watching tyler1 and immediately jumping on his train, the entire chat is full of comments like "ADC IS SO SHIT TO PLAY RIGHT NOW" "tyler1 is right ADC in 2018 LUL" "ADC has always been the worst role , we just have to get used to it" "LUL just swap to mid tyler, its free elo" "Why even play ADC , we are in a mid meta right now". Its funny the boards is often referred to as a "circlejerk" by adc mains but what goes on in tyler1's stream , sneaky's stream , imaqtpie's stream is the real circlejerk of ADC mains. Pure definition of circlejerk. ADC players also hold the full monopoly of twitch.tv with the biggest twitch streams being tyler1, sneaky, and imaqtpie. Who else even streams now? When was the last bjergsen stream? Faker streams like once a week? Top lane streams get extremely low views. Point being, circlejerk from ADC mains creates avalanches, hurricanes, meteor storms, the entire earth shakes when they circle jerk; and our fix for the 2018 year is just about to begin.

This is truly scary to the point where it might just be best to quit the game because I do believe history repeats itself and it has for the last 2 years atleast. When Sneaky's stream started the whole "ADC IN 2017 LUL" and he was crying ADC in 2017 every time he died on stream, did we pass it off as just another circlejerk? NO. You folks at Riot acted on it quickly (despite still being the strongest and most mandatory role), buffed their champions, their entire itemization costs, and subsequently gave us the Ardent censor meta for 6 months straight (6 months!) which lead to Faker literally shedding tears when he lost worlds to ardent bot lanes, the feeling of "I cant do anything" is awful when everybody has high expectations of you.

So my question to you Mr. Repertoir is: You have promised us over and over that bot lane is going to get serious work in the midseason update, that botlane is going to be opened to other roles, that ADC will be made no longer mandatory, that their power curves are going to be looked at compared to other roles, that you are investigating multiplicative damage builders and multiplicative defense builders. You have even alluded in to (in your posts on the boards) that you acknowledge the bot lanes extreme power/monopoly and you even gave us sassy comments that we are pestering you on the boards even though you say its being looked at.

But the golden question of this thread, HOW can you assure us that you will not be pandered by the absolute monstrous levels of QQ / whining from ADC players when you change the power pattern of their role? How can you assure us that you will even follow through on these promises when the a notable fraction of the ADC playerbase still believes their role is the weakest in the game? If you want my opinion, I am not so sure your promises will come through although I hope they will. You have dug a huge hole for yourselves at Riot by allowing their power level to rise to the point it has for so long which has conditioned the ADC playerbase to feel as though this much power is the "norm" or in other words you have spoiled them. So when you take it away, backlash will be huge. Nobody remembers what it felt like to play ADC in 2012-2015. You know when phantom dancer had the old pink swords icon, costed near 3k, but didnt provide the reduced damage taken passive and was the only available zeal item in their kits.

37 Comments

SierraTangoDelta3/14/2018, 6:37:15 PM10 votes

Well, QT actually says that ADC is overpowered as fuck and that he only plays it because it's fun to shit on people with such an easy role. I think he said that in a Beyond the Rift episode.

PopcornBunni3/14/2018, 6:46:46 PM9 votes

It's really funny hearing the complaint about mages getting "40% CDR for free" while ADCs deal mixed damage sustained %health burst per second by pressing the A key in the general direction of an enemy champion.

71060670DEL13/14/2018, 6:48:00 PM8 votes

The issue with ADC is the lack of agency in the role. If the enemy team has a syndra, ryze, or any other mage with the potential to one shot, your only hope is a great engage off of your teammates or an enchanter support protecting you. If you don't have either of those, you essentially have to wait out fights. Playing against assassins and divers generally requires you to stay next to your support unless you have great vision out of fights, and in fights you have to hope and pray that your support doesn't dive the backline.

That doesn't mean that they are weak as a class, it just means that the frustration from certain ADC players(especially ones who are not chill) is completely understandable.

Lowgdog3/14/2018, 6:37:03 PM6 votes

This is a silly post. T1 gets frustrated at just about every role in the game so for you to make it seem like he is scapegoating is silly.

Dasdi963/14/2018, 6:38:06 PM6 votes

At long last, mid laners now actually pose a threat to adcs and of course, the adc mains start a massive uproar. I hope riot doesn’t pqnder to them this time lest we have another ardent censer + hypercarry adc fiasco.

afmghost3/19/2018, 12:16:23 AM2 votes

I take my co-workers more seriously than Tyler1 to be honest. And the NFL for that matter.

3411235456523/14/2018, 6:48:43 PM2 votes

Je suis Rubick, where is he when the world needs him the most. He is like the last avatar, he has vanished.

Alex h87213/14/2018, 6:53:37 PM1 votes

I feel bad for the GP in that last game. He was doing well trying.

CrazFight 3/14/2018, 6:58:52 PM1 votes

I think he was mocking hashinshin... but ok. And also... I read chat, and im pretty sure 99% of them were just memeing.

Rayjay Redfang3/14/2018, 7:05:15 PM1 votes

Honestly after last season, I don't have sympathy for the botlane anymore. It seems fine right now anyway and it is easy to get tilted by being oneshot. For example, is it fun to get oneshot by rengar's full combo. Not particularly, but it is better than if he had no chance to do so.

It does suck to play a role where most things in the game will kill you in a 1v1, you need someone to protect you, and you are basically limited to play those champions botlanr as a result. However, that doesn't mean that other classes should be nerfed so that a particular class can dominate. I don't know of a solution for this, but I don't want to go back to ardent meta ever again.

Athenes Lulu3/14/2018, 7:33:43 PM1 votes

I guess that explains how much Boards hate T1 /s

Khristophoros3/14/2018, 8:26:21 PM1 votes

Who cares what this guy thinks about balance? He's really good at the game but he thinks it's unfair that he can't 1 shot everybody.

P0IS0N IVY3/14/2018, 6:51:51 PM1 votes

Maybe if he screams enough and throws stuff around, Riot will contact him and let him direct the next Draven buffs.