Lethality Items

Asayake 5150glow··1 votes·556 views

I don't know if this was intended, but because of how Lethality scales, a behind assassin with 2 or 3 items will easily oneshot any high leveled enemy carry with only 1 defensive item or less :/

Also Zed ult doing 1.1k damage while his Q's only did 500 in total is not fair.

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Shadòw3 votes

when Zed Ult does 1.1k Damage he must have hit a lot of Damage and did his job right.

that's exactly what Riot wanted with the Lethality changes, that Assassins that are behind can still stay relevant but weaker when in front.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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when Zed Ult does 1.1k Damage he must have hit a lot of Damage and did his job right.

that's exactly what Riot wanted with the Lethality changes, that Assassins that are behind can still stay relevant but weaker when in front.

Exactly.

He didn't hit a lot of damage.

Shadòw1 votes

do you even know how Zed Ult works?

when it did 1.1k Damage he must have hit his whole Combo + a few aa's

it's 100% AD + 45% of hit Damage on lvl3. you usually don't come over 600AD on Zed, so he must have hit a lot for his Ult to deal that much Damage.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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do you even know how Zed Ult works?

when it did 1.1k Damage he must have hit his whole Combo + a few aa's

it's 100% AD + 45% of hit Damage on lvl3. you usually don't come over 600AD on Zed, so he must have hit a lot for his Ult to deal that much Damage.

Yes, I know exactly how it works.

But he didn't hit a lot of damage which is why I'm calling BS.

Tbh, he barely has too because of how the scaling works - he only needs to get you to about half health, and then the ult kills you. Which is pretty stupid for a targeted ult that teleports him next to you.

They should decrease the ult damage but make his abilities hurt more during it, that way you don't feel so cheated when his ult pops you from half health.

Shadòw1 votes

Getting a carry in Late Game to half health is already hitting >1000 Damage.

When you let him get this Damage on you his Ult finishes you, that's how it works

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Getting a carry in Late Game to half health is already hitting >1000 Damage.

When you let him get this Damage on you his Ult finishes you, that's how it works

I think you're thinking of the 3k+ health mage carries :P

It doesn't take much for a 400 AD Zed to do 1k damage. A Q, E, and auto is already 1285 damage, and with 3 penetration items... yeah.

Tbh it doesn't take much for most to do 1k damage. It just looks incredibly wrong...

Shadòw2 votes

Thats literally his whole combo

I don't see whats wrong with an Assassin killing a squishy target when he hits his whole combo

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Thats literally his whole combo

I don't see whats wrong with an Assassin killing a squishy target when he hits his whole combo

Nuh uh.

That's without his shadow's shuriken. Or passive proc.

Astôlfo1 votes

Then learn to play against the newly gutted assassins instead of whining.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Then learn to play against the newly gutted assassins instead of whining.

What do you suggest I do?

Astôlfo1 votes

If you're a mage, pop Zhonya's. If you're a mage or ADC or some other squishy without Zhonya's/it's on cooldown, stick with your team. Ward for flank attempts. Work with your team who will CC him the moment he tries to ult you and then you can shred him.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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If you're a mage, pop Zhonya's. If you're a mage or ADC or some other squishy without Zhonya's/it's on cooldown, stick with your team. Ward for flank attempts. Work with your team who will CC him the moment he tries to ult you and then you can shred him.

I don't get why Zed suddenly became a god tier duelist -_-

Astôlfo1 votes

? He's not.

DeathBurst1 votes

Yes, it's intended. That allows Assassin to not be completely useless if they got shut-down in lane, and on the other hand, it makes them not as oppressive if they won the early game, have a lead and are a few levels higher than you.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Yes, it's intended. That allows Assassin to not be completely useless if they got shut-down in lane, and on the other hand, it makes them not as oppressive if they won the early game, have a lead and are a few levels higher than you.

But yunno... they shouldn't be able to oneshot you when really behind...

It also punishes a top laner for doing well, because they'll take more damage from the enemy mid assassin even if that assassin is completely even.

DeathBurst1 votes

If they are 2 item behinds, they won't one-shot you just because the Lethality system gave them 4 more Flat Armor Pen. But those 4 Armor Pen will allow them to at least clean-up a fight if their team plays it well.

As in, it "allows Assassin to not be completely useless" when behind.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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If they are 2 item behinds, they won't one-shot you just because the Lethality system gave them 4 more Flat Armor Pen. But those 4 Armor Pen will allow them to at least clean-up a fight if their team plays it well.

As in, it "allows Assassin to not be completely useless" when behind.

If they can oneshot me without that 4 extra armor pen how come they can't with it?

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