The Future of Camille: What Will Inevitably Happen

metafoxx·12/12/2016, 9:25:56 AM·3 votes·1,339 views

This has happened over and over and over and over again. It's no surprise. Riot never learns. I haven't played a single game as Camille but I can tell you EXACTLY what will happen in the months after she is released. Mark my words. She will be overpowered on release, she will have a high ban rate, and then she will be repeatedly nerfed until she is barely picked anymore and left in a gutter for at least a year. Why? because she is yet ANOTHER overpowered tanky bruiser with a grossly overloaded kit that will be completely broken and be a major balance issue because they have too much damage and too much utility while building mostly defense and 1-2 damage items. Just like Lee/Irelia/Ekko/Xin/Jayce/Elise/Nidalee before her. And yet again riot will just stare blankly back at us and shrug their shoulders and say "gee guys, we just don't know what happened" as they make the exact same mistake for the 100th time, like a shitty roommate who is surprised every time the rent is due.

Don't get me wrong, she looks cool and very fun to play, but when the question isn't "what does she do", but "what DOESN'T she do", there are painfully obvious balance problems. Just to go down the list, Camille has:

A self shield A self Heal 2 AA resets A move speed buff An Attack Speed buff Physical Damage Magic Damage True Damage (a LOT of it) % max hp damage % current hp damage AOE slow AOE stun Inescapable box + AOE shove THREE DASHES Short Cooldowns Oh, and untargetability.

Can you say "overloaded kit"? How about "impending massive balance problem" and "permabanned" and "purposefully nerfed into oblivion until they're not even good because the instant they're viable they're overpowered"? Yes. Yes you can say that. You can also say "Riot is full of idiots who have no idea how to design their game and make the exact same screwup on an embarrassingly regular basis".

12 Comments

Hopeslayer12/12/2016, 9:29:10 AM2 votes

member Illaoi ?

Martensitic12/12/2016, 9:49:19 AM2 votes

From a toplaners perspective, something like camille is REQUIRED to shake up the meta.

Because, currently, its like this: Moronic tankchampions, who are low-risk-high-reward like Poppy, offer the greatest dumbest gameplay I have seen in a while: Be a complete p*y that can hide behind a shield for ages, build full tank from level 1 and still have enough damage to win 1v1s...unless of course you are against another tank, in which case its becomes the most boring lane ever.

And if anything does go wrong, well...run away. Slows, hooks and ults that disengage are abundant and low cooldown, so who cares, lel jungler wasted time, lel.

Camille offers a different pace, a different game, something we were used to in S5: Trade focused, skill focused, with your actions deciding the game instead of "whos kit allows for more damage while going full tank."

She is an answer to these disengaging, self-protecting hypertanks., with her spike focused trade patterns, her ability to self-protect against the tanks idiotic "retaliate while also being protected" BS, her ability to give chase and prevent escapes during ganks. In teamfights she circumvents the tanks frontline, and forces the team to actually protect the carries, instead of just standing there being enough.

How do you counter something like camille? BY OUTPLAYING HER AT THE SAME GAME.

You know who will be hell to deal with as Camille?

Riven. She counterengages with her stun, can pump more damage in a spike-pattern, protect herself from camilles spikes.

Ofc, that makes it a skill matchup, where the better player wins, instead of the more tanky one, so I understand why many current toplaners are unhappy with that...because, building items is easier than learning how to play.


Bottom line, yes, camille is strong. VERY strong.

But she is also required, at least in the toplane, because hell has it become a boring pile of sh*t up there.

xxxDogmanxxx12/12/2016, 12:40:49 PM1 votes

Xin Zhao has an overloaded kit??????

Wild Wes12/12/2016, 2:13:49 PM1 votes

"Overpowered tanky bruiser... Ekko" [zombie-brand-mindblown] (tank Ekko's gone don't dwell in the past)

midnight oil2412/12/2016, 2:20:53 PM1 votes

She doesn't have three dashes. She's got two, and her ult moves her a short distance, but doesn't dash.

Oglaf12/12/2016, 9:27:20 AM1 votes

Two words:

Perma. Ban.

I've not seen such an overloaded Champion since Yasuo.

xBushx12/12/2016, 3:54:43 PM1 votes

Until you realize someone like Panth or Renek will still DOMINATE her.

ApexInTheCircle12/12/2016, 9:37:14 AM1 votes

Camille is...Interesting to say the least. I see her being a huge abuser of CoTC when people realize that her dive into a team will make her a monster.