Tank items are ridiculous right now.

LunarStrike·May 22, 2017·13 votes·625 views

Tanks are supposed to be sucking up damage. instead, they're getting CC'D and 5-shotted by the enemy adc the instant they jump into the frontline. Now riot, before you start reworking tanks again, please understand that they'll just end up abusing damage items (roll in "lul maokai 2k17" memes) - The problem is with the itemization, not the tanks themselves. Tank items are so weak compared to the lifesteal that AD Carries have.

now yes, I know. Buffing tank items will affect ap carries, etc etc, i UNDERSTAND that and im in no way suggesting that tank items should be buffed atm. what im suggesting, is that you nerf lifesteal because that's literally the issue here, right?

cmon riot, simple logic.

25 Comments

Jar Jar binks lMay 22, 20178 votes

Bortk: Annnnnnd im useless as tank

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20174 votes

I had a full tank naut do 3/4 my health once in just a couple seconds

RalanrMay 22, 20174 votes

What were you?

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

Around lvl 18 adc

RalanrMay 22, 20171 votes

Which adc? What was your build? What was his build? Did he kill you? Did you kill him?

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

Cait, had an ldr, think i had lifesteal, literaly his only 'damage' item was sunfire, took 2 or 3 of us to kill him

RalanrMay 22, 20171 votes

Sounds like someone successfully peeled you off.

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

Yes'm

Variks the LoyalMay 22, 20175 votes

I'm assuming after all this, he died and you lifestole back up to full HP, right?

I'm not seeing an issue, here.

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

The issue is he built absolute full tank with sunfire and did that much damage

RalanrMay 22, 20173 votes

Offense outscales defense. Base damage outscales base defense.

Tanks hurt squishies. That's why you're supposed to kite them.

Variks the LoyalMay 22, 20172 votes

Did you have any defensive items?

Or were you built as a squishy?

Moreover, you won the fight.

There is no issue.

chipndip1May 22, 20171 votes

Lemme guess: He did a full rotation on you with AAs?

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

He pulled me and attacked me just a few times

chipndip1May 22, 20171 votes

What attacks?

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

Mix of autos and abils

chipndip1May 22, 20172 votes

So you've basically confirmed that he may as well have done a full rotation on a squishy marksman. Then you're mad you took damage when you're A SQUISHY MARKSMAN.

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20171 votes

But almost 1500 damage??? Im pretty sure he only used like 2 abilities with some autos. Like i could be wrong as i need to review the replay, but still.

Champion SkinMay 22, 20172 votes

Nautilus deals 1465 damage at level 18 passive + Q + W (4 seconds) + 2x E + R (main target) W ticking for 4 seconds (need to get in one attack two seconds after the first auto attack before the target escapes) and two E's (3 - 5 seconds cooldown) with at least two additional waves hitting

It will probably deal an additional 228+ damage from AA's (2+ auto attacks) And that is all before Armor/MR and taking that into account it will probably be reduced by around 50% or so depending a lot on if you have any MR/armor items

So I don't see it dropping you that low if you have any defensive items at all

MordepoolMay 22, 20173 votes

Yup been saying it for years. Nerf lifesteal it's an issue

ObscureParticleMay 22, 20172 votes

These are exactly my thoughts, life steal needs to be REALLY nerfed. ADC's should be dealing a ton of DPS but still be killable. Things like BotRK make this almost impossible as the minute you are CCed for 1/2 second they life is back to full. Things like Redemption and the new GA have made it even worse.

RequiemsfireMay 22, 20172 votes

Tanks are bad, only a few tanks are successful at the moment and they're primarily junglers, not toplaners. Sad to say, nerfing their one item power spike, delayed their midgame power overall putting them behind in an arms race when anti-tank items are at their strongest they've been in a long while.

KONO RUBICK DAMay 22, 20172 votes

get a juggernaut or skirmisher like fiora

build spirit visage death dance or other sustain items

congrat, more tanky than tanks

NogrimMay 22, 20172 votes

true damage and true % damage are the problems. lets make lethality ignore all of your resists, and then lets put true damage on ADC's

its fucking ridiculous.

chipndip1May 22, 20171 votes

Honestly not sure if life steal is the issue more than it's the lack of solid first item buys that's the issue. Remember, tanks aren't supposed to be strong fighting options as the game progresses. Not alone, anyway.