One person made a post that 
is overpowered, and now everyone's gonna jump in the bandwagon and it's gonna be "nerf ahri" all over again.
seriously, you guys will complain that EVERYTHING is overpowered.
Arcus Diabolus21 votesCan I start the Illaoi is OP train?
...Please?
AFilthyCaitMain4 votesShes fine...???
Joxcab19 votesThat's the joke you dingus
Sun Wu Ryuumoku4 votesNo u can't, this board is fond of Tank AND Juggernaut.... Big Lincon have already this board [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
And 
is the bigger trouble than 
Big Lincoln1 votesi'm probably one of the least liked people on this board by now, how do i own it lul
Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 voteswas mainly a joke about ur juggerlove. But they still love same thing like you... and have a bias for all tanky thing.
Owners don't need love [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
GULAG 4 U1 votesFuffychan?
Big Lincoln1 votesfuffychan is just a shitposter
i'm bitter and spiteful
GULAG 4 U1 votesHave you ever seen Keevalroy LOL?
Melledoneus1 votesJust a spoonful of sugar...
...perhaps another spoonful of sugar makes the Big Lincoln go...
...then perhaps yet another spoonful of sugar...
...good god how much sugar do we need for Big Lincoln's words to go down?
Essychu13 voteslulu is op .
CppL10 votesNot op.But with all that free cdr on items ,her ulti could use some cd nerf.Cause i saw ori players harassing enemy with her ulti.That shouldn't be happening.
TacoKingIII1 votesWhy not?
Chembaron Yamada6 votesBecause it is a strong AoE nuke with hard CC attached to it. It is a really strong team fighting skill and therefore you should consider to use it in these situation rather than "hey, I can just nuke that one guy with the damage, it will be up again in 44 seconds anyway".
The CD is too short for the impact that skill is able to have, it is a game changer.
XeroKimo2 votesBack in my day, any base ult CD >= 80, was considered high, now it's considered low due to so many global ults that are like 120 at lvl 3.
Man how times have changed :'(
I want CD to be more scarce again, trade DPS for more burst or trade burst for more DPS, now it's not hard getting both, or not getting 600+ AP doesn't really hurt your late game dmg as much anymore
Wheatloaf11 votesAlright, I know there's a lot of cdr on items, but calling it free when you literally have to pay for it is a little much.
DoktorKaiser9 votesWhy the fuck not:
in lane its good for ori to burst the target down to 25% hp even if it means to put shockwave on cooldown because then she can zone and play aggressive, but it only happens if enemy sucks or plays a champion that sucks
in late game its worth as fuck to remove 1 enemy player from the game, 95% of ultis are worth less than 1 enemy late game when respawn timers are 60sec
Anything else is just bad Ori play and a waste of ultimate.
Jet Sett2 votesNumber 1 seems like a bad idea all around. If she misses she doesn't have ult, even if she hits and starts being aggressive the enemy jungler can come punish that. The only way she could benefit is if her enemy jungler isn't capable of pressuring her, or her jungler is capable of diving the laner.
If it doesn't guarantee some high gains for its high CD using it is a waste, or at least SHOULD be a waste which is what this person is getting at. If you can afford to harass with a teamfighting ultimate then it's probably too good, or too weak, and clearly it isn't weak.
DoktorKaiser2 votesExactly, its not fucking worth 90% of time, but OP complained that it happens so I wanted to let him know why its sometimes used to harass but it brings so many risks like missing, getting fucked by jungler or getting counter comboed by enemy laner and all that for a moderate reward that is extreme zoning (enemy can just go to base lul).
Jet Sett2 votesWell in that case it's fine.
Catastrophic8 votesAnd? What does this add to any argument? Maybe everything IS overpowered. Disagree? Well then start presenting some actual arguments cause saying, "you guys think everything is op" is just you trying to stop people from complaining, regardless of weather there is reason to complain. It's the same thing with "Oh this hate on x champion is just a bandwagon", "Oh it's the x champion circle jerk". It's the ad hominem fallacy, cause you just insult the argument or its adopters, instead of presenting some logic to counter it.
FaytalityHD6 votesOrianna is actually op though if you know how to abuse enemy laner early and also transitions very nicely into the later stages of the game sooooo..
TacoKingIII15 votesChampions that are op if you know how to play them perfectly, include, but is not limited to: EVERY SINGLE ONE
MuffledGarbage1 votesExcept 
...
GULAG 4 U1 votesHave you ever played the champion?
MuffledGarbage1 votesyes, and even when he goes 3/0 in lane he doesn't snowball hard enough to do well lategame... I could play 
or 
and get better results at the same job as what does, but in a different way (by killing the enemy faster than what the enemy can kill them instead of drain their health and they lose eventually playstyle.
Kàyle6 votesDon't speak out against the hivemind
Anidan3 votes"What is a drop of rain compared to the storm? What is a thought compared to the mind? Our unity is full of wonders, which your tiny individualism cannot even conceive."
Every time I hear the word "hivemind" I think of that quote from System Shock 2 at this point
Synergy God3 votesthis post is OP
Skins Project1 votesYour OP!
Arcus Diabolus4 votes[{quoted}](name=Skins Project,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XPKBzH83,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-05-25T13:56:36.567+0000)
Your OP!
Your MOM is OP! 
Skins Project1 votesOLAF IS O...
I can't say it...
I'm sorry but he got OLAFED...
Synergy God1 votesolaf's mom is op
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesActually, LunarStrike is OP. That guy's just some random commenter.
Skins Project1 votesI'm not OP ;(
Synergy God1 votesyou're mad because you aren't OP
Slack King3 votesOne person made a post that
seriously, you guys will complain that EVERYTHING is overpowered.
Orianna used to get forced into 
. now she can just rush 
and take the mana regen in masteries. Bam, can harass all day
DoktorKaiser3 votesFuck me, after 7 years of being considered a gem that RIOT made in the midst of all the fuck ups they released in season 1 and early season 2, people are saying Orianna is op. Fuck. Me. Seriously people, champion who has no mobility or targeted abilites is hardly broken, learn to play and keep complaining about other actually op shit like Ahri or Kassadin...
SnakDatSmilesBak2 votesI think there's a gradient of op-ness. Ori, imo, is only slightly op and here I will explain why.
Tldr: her mana costs and cooldowns were buffed slightly over a long period of time which resulted in making her easier to play and more forgiving.
Back when I first started to play league in late season 2, Ori was a utility mage. She did damage but not nearly as much as say Syndra or Annie. Her damage was comparable to someone like lux. Her full combo was rarely ever enough to kill enemies unless extraordinarily fed, much like lux you had to weave autos in between skills to maximize damage. Back then, Ori played the lane phase safely with the goal of scaling and teamfighting. Today Ori is a very safe and strong lane pick, she's easily able to bully champions who have shorter range and can safely lane against most champions due to her utility with her shield, knock up, slow, speed up, and displacement. She still has the same goal but has a much easier ti,e getting there.
So this begs the question: what changed since then? If we look at her patch history, her cool downs have been lowered and so have her mana costs. She's gotten some quality of life changes as well, related to ball placement. When Ori recently resurfaced in the meta, she stayed a relevant pick because of the above reasons. Note that I don't consider her overwhelmingly strong. She is powerful, but not overpowered.
My suggestion is to slightly nerf the damage on her q. Since I do not believe she is overwhelmingly strong I would strongly suggest a compensation buff to her shield. Specifically when the ball travels to a target to shield it, I'd like for it to do just a little more damage to targets it travels through (the same amount of damage nerfed from her q). Skilled orianna players would still do the same amount of damage in a full combo and her utility aspect is played up a little bit while nerf in her emergent lane bully status.
DoktorKaiser1 votesOk I will agree that she never runs oom which just wasnt the case in season 2, back then 3 combos would just drain you fully. But its not only her problem, its the problem that every mage has now, you NEVER run out of mana, only problem is that Ori uses it fully since she has both damage and utility and is late game oriented and top it all with free CDR that is spammed around these days and you get 40% cdr full build Ori with infinite mana which is fucking terrifying. What I am saying is - dont nerf Ori, nerf the fucking mana and CDR on items.
SnakDatSmilesBak1 votesYeah I agree fully that skills are too spammable currently. However, riot is showing no signs of slowing down with cdr. Cdr is consistently being thrown into every class and it seems like it's the direction riot wants to go with their game so who am I to argue with that?
I've posted before about the availability of cdr but since this discussion is about Ori I decided to focus on her.
Zelorxon2 votesIt's called being trash players and being spoiled retarded kids that never got slapped in their life, they speak without thinking just by what their feelings make them spew out of their retarded mouth, today is the op champion, tomorrow is the toxic player. It's called making excuses and finding scapegoats.
Which is more tiring? Researching and learning the game so that you can have control over it watching billions of replays and doing hours of thinking... Or wasting 5 minutes to write a post calling whatever managed to hit you in game "overpowered" ignoring completely math? You tell me.
XenociderOmega2 votesReal talk wards are op
Quort2 votesEverything has the potential to be OP at some point! :3
SexyBabyJesusZ2 votesoh no god forbid someone hates a champion
OH! and when a lot of people hate something and have legitimate concerns about a champion, It must be a circlejerk automatically!
WinTheWarOnPants2 votesLITERALLY everyone uses the word "literally" wrong now days....
DragonShea2 votesPeople will Complain about a champ being good or OP. Ignore the former but deal with the latter.
Wyrmblade2 votesThe champions that I have and will bitch about have been the same since I first started playing. Nerfs and buffs do not affect my hatred because it penetrates deeper than Urgot with black cleaver, last whisper, full lethality and a bad dragon strapped to his undercarriage.
I'd be perfectly okay if Karthus, Sion, Taric or some other shit like that became 100% pick ban. I never rage when I die to champions like those because it always feels like it comes from something I did wrong that wasn't "Be within two screens of them."
