How to properly nerf Riven's obnoxious escapes without touching her ability to fight or jungle

h0tkarl·10/9/2015, 3:04:51 AM·224 votes·9,142 views

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TL;DR

  1. TRIPLE the cooldown of her dash from 6 to 18 seconds @ rank 5 (3.6 sec to 11 sec with 40% CDR)
  2. Attacking a champion/minion/monster after dash reduces the dash cooldown back to live numbers (like Gnar boomerang)

>IT'S CALLED "VALOR," NOT "COWARDICE"

Riven's shield provides her with good trade and outplay power.  Though many people consider an AD-scaling shield OP and BS, I feel that it fits her kit.

I am mediocre at Riven and hate facing her, but I do not think that her ability to fight is too strong.

**My main complaint with Riven is her ability to escape a coordinated gank with spammable dashes, many times when she doesnt even have boots and enemies have boots 2**

>How to nerf her cheesy escapes without touching her ability to fight champs or jungle mobs

1. TRIPLE the cooldown of her dash (from 6 to 18 seconds @ rank 5)
2. Using Valor puts a single charge of "VALOR" buff on Riven that does not stack.
3. If Riven hits a champion, minion, or monster with auto attack, immediately consume VALOR buff to refund 66% of the CDR-modified cooldown of the dash, restoring it to current baseline CD (possibly instantly refreshing it)

>Illustration

**Riven NOW:**

Case 1:  Riven uses Valor to fight her enemy.  She goes all-in and gets to use it every 3.6 seconds (40% CDR) in a fight to shield damage and dodge spells, etc

Case 2:  Riven uses Valor to escape a gank.  She gets to dash 375 units every 3.6 seconds, essentially giving her more movespeed than Swiftness boots would, and negating slows.

**Riven WITH THE CHANGE**

Case 1:  Riven uses Valor to fight her enemy.  She goes all-in and gets to use it every 3.6 seconds (40% CDR) because she is fighting and the scaling CD restore means she can use it as often as before as long as she is committed to fighting.

Case 2:  Riven uses Valor to escape a gank.  She dashes once, but since she is running away like Brave Sir Robin, she cannot consume the VALOR buff and thus can only dash once per 11 seconds (40% CDR)

>I am ready for your downvotes
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215 Comments

The Bearded Bard10/9/2015, 4:23:12 AM31 votes

Nice idea, but I'd change it to any damaging ability reduces the cd, not just autoattacks. Too much change all at once is a bad idea, start it off with any damaging spell, if her escapes are still too obnoxious, change it to autos only.

MalzaharAnyLane10/9/2015, 3:10:11 AM15 votes

Do it, her mobility is her problem, NOT her damage.

Sasogwa10/9/2015, 3:06:54 AM15 votes

3 times the cooldown seems a bit harsh. But I fully agree on the Valor, not cowardice thing.

pE4CbxDPQO10/9/2015, 6:02:12 AM11 votes

Numbers might not be correct but the concept is perfect.

Slamurai Jack10/9/2015, 5:39:22 AM9 votes

I'm not fundamentally opposed to the idea, although I think it's funny how "Riven needs a nerf." is the assumed consensus. I'm still of the opinion that she's a mediocre champion propped up by an absurdly experienced playerbase in a game mode (solo Q) that caters heavily to her strengths.

LOL Spammer10/9/2015, 3:13:22 AM8 votes

Very odd idea but I think it would work.

darapier1710/9/2015, 11:02:00 AM6 votes

upvoted just because of brave sir robin

Goodest Gamer10/9/2015, 3:34:26 AM6 votes

what downvotes lol? all your going to get is upvotes by the silver piles of garbage who dont know hwo to build armor.

Actin10/9/2015, 6:13:32 AM5 votes

Just give her mana

She's the only champion in the game that doesn't walk to lane

FistOfSharkiesha10/9/2015, 9:26:12 AM5 votes

I suggested this ages ago, glad it's finally getting recognition. Not sure why Kennen, Renekton, and Shen have to connect their dash to use it again/get enough energy to use other abilities while Riven can dash 4 times every few seconds. On top of that her shield negates any damage that ranged attacks deal to her while she's running.

Lu7GxFdkYz10/9/2015, 3:20:38 AM5 votes

This my friends is why all champs have been nerfed into the ground.