Riot please look at % pen

TecToNiiC·12/17/2014, 6:23:01 PM·4 votes·793 views

How hard is it to change the % pen on item 3035 and item 3135 ?

Answer: Very simple. Do a few PBE cycles with some different values and change between armor/mr to bonus armor/mr and see what happens. I can almost guarantee you will find a better version than live where these items are no longer 100% necessary.

Edit: I'm not saying this is a 2 second fix that can be pushed to live. I just think it would be worthwhile to mess with bonus vs total armor at different percentages on PBE.

13 Comments

rB5phOz4ww12/17/2014, 6:29:03 PM2 votes

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Epilogue of Life12/17/2014, 9:18:13 PM2 votes

Leave item 3035 alone. It's the last thing assassins have that are not subpar to AP items...and also, armor is cheap, a lot cheaper than MR, so kinda makes sense for AD to penetrate more?

Hyrum Graff12/17/2014, 6:34:14 PM1 votes

I agree that % pen needs to be looked at, hopefully made not 100% necessary (preferably, necessary on marksmen but not assassins). However, I would NOT consider anything relating to items that are core on every carry to be "very simple."

Rebonack12/17/2014, 7:05:09 PM1 votes

The problem with Void/Whisper is that they're anti-everything items.

To make them into anti-tank items you would want to have 'em build out of Longsword/Tome and a high combine cost. They would grant very little AD/AP, but a ton of bonus resist penetration. That would make them largely ineffective against soft targets, but great against resist stacked folks. If you put them at around 50% bonus resist penetration that would have them breaking even at about 200 resist on Armor and 180/100 MR depending on whether or not the champ has scaling base resist.

Mahnigguh12/17/2014, 7:08:48 PM1 votes

in the past when something was 100% needed riot got rid of it... item 3035 item 3135 i think we need to say good bye...this would open it up for creating new pen items altogether

Kuroi8612/17/2014, 10:17:17 PM1 votes

I can almost guarantee you will find a better version than live where these items are no longer 100% necessary.

Incorrect. So long as there are tanks/bruisers, these items will always be 100% necessary.