Can someone help me get better at the following champions?

BLIGHTBRINGER··1 votes·1,602 views

##I absolutely suck at playing the following champions, and I want to learn but I can't seem to improve on my mistakes on my own.

Kindred Ivern Ornn AurelionSol

##Additionally the other following champions I am okay at but I still want to improve...

Lissandra Malzahar Skarner Bard Ryze RekSai

###Any advice or suggestions?

12 Comments

BenLegend4431 votes

search up some guides online. I learned how to play Kindred( i still suck, but not as much) that way.

Champs I want to improve at but I'm good with: Caitlyn Akali Karthus Kaisa

Champs I'm crap at and need lots of help: Yorick Kindred Janna

XOXOXOXOXOXO1 votes

Yorick. You generally want to play a more passive laning phase, trying to scale as much as possible. The "bugfix", kinda made it difficult for him to succeed. Your maiden targets them when they hit you, so never go under turret, they will get it on you fast. I would also recommend Grasp over Conq, not sure which one you take. I would say going item 3078 into item 3053 and then full tank. I generally can do well with that. The problem with Yorick, he can be bullied in lane very easily. He also is screwed over by good junglers, I wouldn't recommend playing him, and trying someone else. He can do good in lower elo, but the higher you get, the more impossible he feels to play.

Myren Quiddle1 votes

Maybe I can tell you something about Ornn, where do you get stuck? Or what do you need help with?

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

I'm okay with farming and trading but I just always die no matter how tanky I am in real fights. I feel like an ADC with extra health basically lol

Maybe you can suggest some better builds or something?

What I usually build:

  • First Item: item 3025 or item 3001 (depending on match-up)

  • Second item: item 3068 or item 3800 (Situational)

  • Other final items: item 3083 item 3194 item 3075 item 3193

Myren Quiddle1 votes

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I'm okay with farming and trading but I just always die no matter how tanky I am in real fights. I feel like an ADC with extra health basically lol

Maybe you can suggest some better builds or something?

  • First Item: item 3025 or item 3001 (depending on match-up)

  • Second item: item 3068 or item 3800 (Situational)

  • Other final items: item 3083 item 3194 item 3075 item 3193

item 3025 is mostly build on Ornn , the problem with this is that you don't build health, your W scales with health and is your biggest damage dealer as you're a tank. I mostly start with item 3800 ; it gives quite some health and mana + the active is really nice! I'm mostly just tank, I don't even build item 3025 that often. Just Q+E to help your team engage, then W so you survive a bit longer. In lane I mostly start with W, then slow them with Q so you get a guaranteed Brittle basic attack. As for the rest of the items; I also go for item 3068 or item 3001 and ofcourse item 3083 I hope this helps a little :)

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

Thanks a lot :)

Myren Quiddle1 votes

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Thanks a lot :)

You're really welcome! If you have more questions, ask ahead :)

saltran1 votes

For Kindred you could watch some games from KT Score who is the best Kindred in the world, note: he was an ADC main that went to Jng.

https://youtu.be/l2ObdfBssFs

Asamas1 votes

I am a season 7 rek'sai main. I can give you a tip or two on her. First always take red -> rapotors -> wolfs -> scuttle -> gank. For runes get aftershock and for build I go (for stats go 2 ad and 1 health) item 1401 item 3077 item 3071 item 3748 and after that build tank depending on the enemy team. If ad item 3047 item 3742 . If ap item 3111 item 3065 . You should always be looking for dives with your lane ally or in a 3v1 gank bcs aftershock give you a ton of survivability. You should play like eve or nunu in the early, invading enemy jungle and ganking like a mad man as you can win most 1v1s if you rush chilling smite into tiamat. On lvl 6 is a free gank bot and a drake. After that gank solo lanes and more specifically top as it is easier in most cases. In the late game go be a tank and engage and after your dmg dealers take low the apc or adc kill it with R. That will give you some time off the battle, help you reposition, take out a high priority target and give you the ability to flank and again engage. You max q -> e -> w. If you get early lead you can go for worrior smite and ravenous. Not your everyday assassin rek sai but this build is overall better for all stages of the game as you still deal respectable dmg and can't die from one ability.

Hardstuck Thresh1 votes

First of all I would like to state that I am a low silver player so you should probably take what I have to say for a grain of salt. However I have successfully played a handful of the champions that you listed and maybe I can help a little.

For Ivern, generally I will try to invade and take his first buff then go back and get my buff on the corresponding side. After that try to gank whatever lane you happen to be closest to if it makes sense. Then just repeat. Take enemy buff. Take your buff/some of your camps. Gank lanes. Repeat. He is a fun champion who feels kind of like a second support in the jungle and I know some say he isn't strong but he has a high potential to benefit your team in ways other than doing tons of damage.

For Bard, honestly just try to have a good time. I am pretty sure you only want to pick him with an adc that can hold their own in lane and not die the second you leave as you need to collect chimes to become stronger. I try to pick up chimes after backing and heading back to lane or when setting up wards for objectives. The best way to play Bard is to have fun and be as annoying as possible by landing stuns that the enemy doesn't expect and ganking when the enemy is playing aggressive. He is also really fun if you have a duo and they play kayn.

And finally for Malzahar, press R and don't die a lot.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

Can'T help on much but Lissandra, since she is my third most played champion. Is there anything in peticular that you have troubles with? Laning, teamfights, combos, escapes? Otherwise I can give you some general tricks too!

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

Can't think of anything right now but I will come back to that a bit later on.

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