Does Dark Harvest suck?

Oakleaf Ranger·Nov 9, 2017·2 votes·7,293 views

I just tried it and my initial thoughts are, this keystone sucks. Garbage version of thunder lords.

10 Comments

KhristophorosNov 9, 20172 votes

I think it's really feast or famine. I've tried it a few times now and when I was ahead it felt really good but when I was behind it felt useless. It's a combination of collecting fewer souls because you just can't get them as easily while behind, and the fact that the small amount of extra burst it adds doesn't deter confident opponents who know they're winning. If you're ahead you can get more souls and the extra burst really pushes your advantage over the edge.

I don't really like how dependent this rune is on snowballing. I enjoy the actual gameplay it has though.

Kai GuyNov 9, 20171 votes

I dig it. Can chain them in fights. Probably works best on jungles rather then lane thou.

Shifue DravenNov 9, 20171 votes

I heard they nerfed it before live. I was not impressed with it on yi to say the least maybe with someone higher burst is good but idk.

ZerdunNov 9, 20172 votes

they nerfed the generation of souls from champions, minions, and jungle camps then they increased the AD/AP scaling. effectively it made it a power net positive @ the same amount of stacks (they almost doubled the scaling if i'm not mistaken). It is now much harder to accumulate ridiculous amounts of free damage through stacks as the trade off though.

Previously it was something like 10 stacks on champion kills, 3 on jungle mobs and 5 on cannon minions and now its like 6, 2, 4

Shifue DravenNov 9, 20171 votes

that is what i thought i heard thank you for the answer :).

Mysticman89Nov 9, 20171 votes

Pretty sure it's intended as a longer term scaling burst rune, rather than a new version of thunderlords (which is more electrocutes thing).

BlackFluxNov 9, 20171 votes

I for one like it in terms of jungling. basically,the more large monsters/kill participation you get the more stacks. hilarious on champions like ,as you can farm up,go AD with item 3078 item 3053 get THE ULTIMATE HAT AND TRANSENDANCE ...for the like 30 second cooldown ultimate,and your E has a 115% AD scaling,so you have your E,sheen,like 250 DH stacks,that mastery where dashes give lethality,and your AA does like 1500 damage. funny in my opinion. though IDK what you would use it for in a non troll build

KhristophorosNov 9, 20171 votes

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I for one like it in terms of jungling. basically,the more large monsters/kill participation you get the more stacks. hilarious on champions like ,as you can farm up,go AD with get THE ULTIMATE HAT AND TRANSENDANCE ...for the like 30 second cooldown ultimate,and your E has a 115% AD scaling,so you have your E,sheen,like 250 DH stacks,that mastery where dashes give lethality,and your AA does like 1500 damage. funny in my opinion. though IDK what you would use it for in a non troll build

That's not a troll build. I'm calling it now, that's the new meta Vi build. DH is really strong on divers.

SukishooNov 9, 20171 votes

Electrocute is the Thunder lords replacement, not Dark Harvest. Dark Harvest is a "kill more, get more power" kind of thing.

ZerdunNov 9, 20171 votes

It's really all about how high you can get the stacks too TBH. It can whack somebody for like 500 damage at around 250 stacks during end game off of a singular ability so you could just assume that the thing is basically a weaker t lords till it you hit critical mass.

Think of this as the veigar keystone. Its utterly weaksauce pre 15-20 minutes but once you stack it enough it starts mopping the floor.