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Honestly I feel like lb is in a perfect spot right now.

JamesTheMage17·3/18/2017, 1:07:20 PM·11 votes·2,010 views

She is perfect right now. When she lost her W+RW burst combo that could literally 100-0 people nobody knew how to play her anymore (except me who never maxed out her W ever) but now people are seeing different ways around the nerfs without being absolutely broken again.

I see Leblanc now (and really always have seen her) as a self-utility mage (meaning she has a lot of utility but it only works for herself) since she can E people and then W closer if they are gonna get out of range. Now her W is only used for proc'ing her Q on minion waves (and her RW is only used when she's out of spells and know she can kill them with it).

Reminds me of Karma honestly, with the multi-hit delayed root and the AoE nuke. In addition, her ultimate is actually not an ultimate, but just buffs another one of her skills.

Please keep LB where she is now. I see no problems with her and she's now fun to use again (her reworked version was completely boring, I miss the old lb) since you need to use skill and thinking about how you are going to kill your target.

19 Comments

Hupsis3/18/2017, 1:30:00 PM12 votes

Lowest winrate of all champions... "perfect".

While the nerfs were necessary I don't think she's in a "perfect" spot right now.

BakedLotion3/18/2017, 1:25:18 PM10 votes

She's garbage The rework was garbage

Sadistic Veigar3/18/2017, 4:55:48 PM2 votes

43% winrate

"perfect spot"

zaire903/18/2017, 10:00:21 PM2 votes

Ah yes the assassin that lost her burst and is compared to the support who lost her identity is in a perfect spot

SirLapse3/18/2017, 2:00:13 PM2 votes

In terms of her skill interactions right now, yes. This is because they nerfed the entire reason to use one of noted "most efficient" combos for killing an opponent. I'd prefer it if they kept it this way, but the numbers are not where they need to be for that happen necessarily.

Xiao Bao Bei3/23/2017, 2:56:12 PM1 votes

I just feel bad about my poor lb. Still I mean other assassins can one-shot people EASILY Ekko? Just E Q A (passive), and boom you die. Talon? Q W R (passive), and boom you die. Kat? I don't even need to say. Put the head on the keyboard and roll it over QWER and you die. why can't lb? Why are people so toxic about lb?

She has already got that 1.5 seconds delay, and there is no way to do so much dmg in less than 1.5 seconds to trigger that passive which deals very high damage. People complain about her burst dmg? Then think about talon maybe? My point is that talon's W's delay is somehow like lb's delay however he could use his Q W R to trigger his passive instantly. Maybe she is not supposed to deal damage at all.

You lose lanes because you suck or your champion sucks (get countered by lb), it is not because lb is too strong or what. A well-played ryze, syndra, morgana, karma..... All these counter lb a lot.

Almost 400k mastery points lb player here, I have to say that people can counter against lb so easily. You die because you don't know how to do it or your team does not know how to do it.

Simply two words,

YOU SUCK.

Current lb isn't healthy at all. It's trash.

Not trying to insult OP but it's just frustrating to see that people are so happy about lb's continuous crazy mf nerfs.

Rito balance engineers, DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU.

By the way, her winrate is 44% now.

Bisaknosp3/18/2017, 2:39:19 PM1 votes

she is really up in the early stages of the game takes so much time for the passive to finally deal enough damage to kill someone during laning the only time you can go for the kill is when you used 20 q's on them already xd idk kind of unfair if you look at the other assassins that can easily go for the kill at 6 but oh yea she isnt one anymore apparently

also her waveclear could be improved you really need to be ahead if you want to clear the caster minions with w+q it can take sooo much time to clear 1 wave

Swarovsko3/18/2017, 4:54:35 PM1 votes

So what do I max with her now? Q? E?

Sassmast3r3/18/2017, 5:01:13 PM1 votes

Disclaimer: I don't play assassins often, and in fact only use them in bot games just to test what their changes are. If we're talking about the effectiveness fo champions in ranked, I can't discuss that as I never play ranked.

Though I won't bother looking at her winrate (I trust it's really bad right now based on what I've heard from other players), I feel like they did wonders with her kit; it just needs some toning. Personally, what I hated about her most was her old Q, W + RW combo. She'd throw a sigil on your arbitrarily, then fly in your face twice and you did instantly... and she could even press the same abilities again and go back to her starting position. Now that her damage is forcefully spaced out, and her W/RW abilities are not her main source of damage, rather her Q landing on target(s) that have been affected by her W, it feels like the opportunity to either counterattack or run away is still present, while she still has the mobility to (if needed) assassinate you. She's become a Mage primarily, and an Assassin secondarily, which is exactly what I've always hoped to see in her kit.

Similar to Katarina's rework, they made LB much harder (in that her damage is spaced out, and it does not come from only one ability, thus requiring the player to play strategically and think about the kill) while not ruining her enjoyable play-style. I think she could use some tuning on her numbers to fix her currently low win-rate (and perhaps some changes on her ultimate), but the basis of her kit is just where it should be.