Randomly harassing someone and telling them to "kys" unprovoked should result in a permaban.

JamesTheMage17··16 votes·2,881 views

Just finished a match with a friend and three of his other friends whom I did not know. Two of them were nice, one of them randomly harassed me throughout the game and cursed me out in front of everyone for no reason. I ignored them and told them to stfu, followed by them telling me to "kys" (kill yourself). This should be an automatic permaban for that player, I can't believe people can do this in games. I was friendly to everyone, telling them stuff like "nice dodge!" and "great job!" and other positive things. Randomly, before I even had a death, I was told by them that I suck, am horrible, should kill myself, and was cursed out constantly. Unacceptable and unbelievable.

46 Comments

Angry Monster12 votes

why should i be perma banned for telling you to "kiss your self?"

Itankyou2 votes

I thought it meant karate your sensai, I was very mistaken. Konichiwa.

big baller011 votes

its not even funny! Its well known that "kys" means kill yourself especially in a context like that. People use the chat in LoL withouth thinking about consequenses. That should change!

Ackelope4 votes

Instant permaban? No way. I disagree with that, people should always get a warning and a chance to change their behaviour. If they continue without heeding any of the warnings, they're probably gonna get banned and at that point they deserve it.

JamesTheMage172 votes

I got permabanned for telling someone "idgaf" once. If that's the standards for permabans, then this guy might as well be excecuted in real life.

Gary B Enkelis7 votes

BS. I doubt you got a permaban for just that. But I mean I don't know.

Daishø3 votes

thats complete bullshit lmao. idgaf = permaban. Yeah fucking right.

Reworked Fiora2 votes

You probably we're reported in other games for saying stuff way worse stuff and it added up. It takes like 3 months before riot forgets about a legit report where you were considered toxic, I'm pretty sure all the punishments are handed out by bots now and they probably don't even have a term like idgaf coded into them.

JamesTheMage171 votes

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You probably we're reported in other games for saying stuff way worse stuff and it added up. It takes like 3 months before riot forgets about a legit report where you were considered toxic, I'm pretty sure all the punishments are handed out by bots now and they probably don't even have a term like idgaf coded into them.

It was from one single game on the chatlogs. It should be 2-4, but it was only one, and on that chatlog it said idgaf and, if this is also somehow toxic, wtf, even though they have that shown on leagues homepage like six times.

Reworked Fiora1 votes

Copy and paste your chatlog then.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

That's reasonable.

Mister Punches1 votes

Telling someone to kill themselves should allow a slap on the wrist so they won't do it again?

Ackelope2 votes

I think this is a little different. It's in a video game, a place where plenty of people throw some of their inhibitions to the wind because of the general anonymity. Telling people to kill themselves isn't a rare thing, and while it isn't nice at all, it is rarely meant to be taken completely seriously, so I think it's adequate to give people a smaller penalty to just realize that what they're saying isn't okay, and that its ramifications are pretty serious, so that they don't do it again.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but just because its a video game online doesnt give a license to be a complete tool. i know i was taught better and brought up better then that and if i was a kid and my parents saw me doing and saying the things that people do on this client to harass others id for one would lose my computer and internet and get my ass whipped.

and to justify that behavior in any form is idiotic. and for people to say it wasnt their fault to get ban or their fault for being toxic ect is a problem with society and the younger generations as a whole. no one will take responsibility for their actions its always someone else's fault.

i could turn this into a rant with alot of points from current news headlines but this isnt the forum for that. people need to act mature. every one has been told "if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all" people need to treat others with respect and kindness. ill admit i have lost my cool with people before in games after i was annoyed to the point i acted out in spite it wasnt the fault of the people who annoyed me it was me being immature. however i have never received any chat restrictions, or bans.

i am for one in favor to eliminate the chat feature from the game all together. because with out the chat feature then no one can verbally abuse anyone.

Ackelope1 votes

I have never told someone to kill themselves, but I guess I might have been desensitized to it by it being said so frequently by a lot of this game's playerbase... It's more or less used as a relatively casual term now, but jeez, it's kinda stupid that this community managed to turn suicide into something casual...

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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I have never told someone to kill themselves, but I guess I might have been desensitized to it by it being said so frequently by a lot of this game's playerbase... It's more or less used as a relatively casual term now, but jeez, it's kinda stupid that this community managed to turn suicide into something casual...

that is the issue its called conditioning... if you live in an environment where violence, crime, drugs ect are the normal then you are conditioned to it and when you see it and are around it you arent effected by it but you take some one who's environment was the complete opposite and put them in that environment of violence , crime, drugs they would in lack of better words " lose their shit " so as you said you got desensitized to it because you dealt with it so much its nothing its like the small talk people do at work ' hey good morning " "oh morning joe""how are you' no one remembers those conversations dont think twice wont remember saying hello or good morning to joe at all. which that small talk and the verbal abuse toxicity of league are similar that it really means shit, it dont matter it dont come down to anything. its fake. but for those who are sensitive or not desensitized to it will get mad or upset and it creates a harassing environment. people just need to grow up and be mature.

Arkana The Hero1 votes

You haven't been desensitized everyone else has just been overly sensitive.

Reworked Fiora1 votes

The problem with that it it make league complete a hard core, must be with friends or team on mic game. Solo players be left in the complete dark if they want to rank up in elo, you could still have pings ofc, but if you want to really come up with a stragey with randoms and your a solo player it would become impossible. Also people who are going solo a lot seem to use the chat the most out of everybody, some people I think the chat is half the fun to them. But I think that putting in voice chat and removing text chat could actually be better for both for teamwork and toxicity reasons. Riot said voice chat would probably invite more toxicity but soooooooooooo many people who say shit in league is only cause they don/t have to actually say it with their mouth and hear the other person. So any fear for saying it is really taken away. So many people wouldn't be toxic just cause their just to sccared to actually say shit to someone. Also if people are toxic and if Riot would just spend some more money on actual people to handle reports and punishments, it also be a lot easier to determine someone who was toxic in a voice chat.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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The problem with that it it make league complete a hard core, must be with friends or team on mic game. Solo players be left in the complete dark if they want to rank up in elo, you could still have pings ofc, but if you want to really come up with a stragey with randoms and your a solo player it would become impossible. Also people who are going solo a lot seem to use the chat the most out of everybody, some people I think the chat is half the fun to them. But I think that putting in voice chat and removing text chat could actually be better for both for teamwork and toxicity reasons. Riot said voice chat would probably invite more toxicity but soooooooooooo many people who say shit in league is only cause they don/t have to actually say it with their mouth and hear the other person. So any fear for saying it is really taken away. So many people wouldn't be toxic just cause their just to sccared to actually say shit to someone. Also if people are toxic and if Riot would just spend some more money on actual people to handle reports and punishments, it also be a lot easier to determine someone who was toxic in a voice chat.

issue with voice chat provided by riot via the client is there would be no way to monitor it and report people based on verbal abuse/ behavior. Riot has even came out and stated they would have a harder time enforcing rules or handling reports. so riot is on the fence about it.

2ndly have you ever played CALL OF DUTY online? lol man that is some harsh shit. 12 yr old talking about f****ng your mother and everything else under the sun.

Mister Punches1 votes

It still doesn't excuse the fact that someone is taking the time out of their life to tell someone to kill themselves. I've had MANY people in this game tell that to me at this point, and while I'm desensitized by it, and I couldn't care any less of what they tell me, I still do genuinely care if someone does end up taking their advice and offing themselves.

It may not be an "alpha" thing to stretch someone's e-peen about, you know, genuinely caring for the welfare of others around me, but the people who do tell others to kill themselves represent the community much more than the people who are trying to tell others that the small minority does not represent them.

The League community already has one of the top reputations for being one of the worst gaming communities ever, arguably worse than the Call of Duty community, and it's all due to the vocal minority. There are people who genuinely care about this community improving its attitude, but that seems to be a minority as well, and one that doesn't get enough recognition vs. the ones who tell others to kill themselves, the overly enthusiastic player who will insult others if they do not agree with them, and the people who are just insulting others for absolutely no reason other than to just trigger someone they don't know online.

Look, I agree with you that the "kill yourself" thing that people say here is pretty commonplace, and I mean starting to become just as common as "gg ez", but not at that level yet. Though, I simply can't agree that it should be a small penalty for someone if they tell someone to kill themselves. While they aren't directly killing the person they tell that to, if the person that they tell it to decides to do it and off themselves, it will be blood on the person's hands, as well as on Riot's hands, and I'm pretty sure Riot doesn't need to deal with someone committing suicide over their game because things got "heated".

Arkana The Hero1 votes

It takes like 1 second to type it, no ones taking time to do anything.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

you get an warning when you click accept to the terms and conditions to use league of legends. in that wall of text is rule put forth by riot in which you have to abide by to use their game. it appears at every patch or update or when you 1st download the client. by clicking accept you agree and from that point forward they have the right to refuse service to any one based on any reason they listed that violates their terms of service. they are not obligated to give you any other warning. but riot is being nice by having a system that progressively gets more harsh the more you violate the terms. however they do not have to abide by that if they deem you behavior to be worthy of a ban at any point they reserve the right to do so.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

I disagree. Telling another human being that they should commit suicide over a video game is about the worst thing you could say in game.

please don't go and try to prove me wrong, this could get dark real fast

Ackelope1 votes

I won't try to prove you wrong, because I agree that it's pretty bad, but I just think that people don't understand how serious what they're saying is, and that they should get at least some kind of warning before the permaban occurs...

Arkana The Hero1 votes

You are wrong. I mean killing someone is probably a far worse thing to do in a game. Imagine playing football and just shanking someone.

Telling someone to make a decision to do something themselves over the internet on a video game doesn't even slightly compare.

You are probably in your own home at your desk, this can't get dark because nothing anyone says can do harm to anyone here.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

about the worst thing you could say in game.

Astôlfo1 votes

I disagree. Behavior like telling someone to kill themselves over a game is inexcusable and warrants an instant permaban. There are certain limits that should not ever be crossed even in anger.

Jeanne fan club4 votes

Now show me on the doll where the words touched you...

JamesTheMage171 votes

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Now show me on the doll where the words touched you...

I legitimately laughed when I read this. +1

Arkana The Hero1 votes

You are my new hero. Also I'm using this anytime someone makes a post like this.

Reworked Fiora2 votes

I got perma banned for calling someone Alex so hes probably screwed

redfeenix2 votes

Idk.

On one hand its the fucking internet. Are you gonna lose your shit over what some random 13 year old said?

On the other hand, if someone is depressed or something, then that sucks.

I usually just fucking laugh at flamers, but I just mute them and report them after if things get too bad

Arkana The Hero1 votes

When you report people you contribute to post like this.

redfeenix1 votes

I'm not sure what you mean by this arkana, would you mind clarifying?

Palmeiras SerieB2 votes

I've been harassed in the boards for having my own opinions. Nobody did care at all.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i usually respond after being told how bad i am cuz im a silver or i dont play rank that i have no clue , im useless ect ect

i respond by saying " thank you for pointing that out, now i realize how bad i am , im gonna uninstall and go kill myself"

thank you

lol but im Trundle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oypo-ojPMbQ

Chewbacca Merkin1 votes

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Kclean Your Septic system

yes septic back ups and failures can cost thousands of $$$ to repair when for a few $ you can get Rid-X

Reworked Fiora1 votes

We need Billy Mayes now.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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We need Billy Mayes now.

if he was alive im sure he would have a spot on tv selling us a product to get rid of all the toxicity in the league community.

RIP BILLY BEST TV PITCH GUY EVER

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Reworked Fiora1 votes

I got perma banned for calling somebody Alex so but way before that I used keemstar language dont worry tho bros im reformed

Arkana The Hero1 votes

Don't be a whiny baby. Problem Solved. And maybe take some good advice from those guys.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Good news. It does. If you don't believe be why don't you go try it for a bit.

WolfChases1 votes

Well I had a game when enemy Lee Sin got killed by my mid laner during a gank and got pissed. Lee told him that he wishes him that his mom dies of a cancer...lol..I was stunned.

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