I hate Elise

chipndip1·May 3, 2017·3 votes·2,010 views

...on my team. She's like..."Worse Lee Sin with AP". If she does well, she falls off unless the game goes perfect and we lose. If she does poorly, it's a fucking 4v5 and we DEFINITELY lose. I hate seeing her on my team because she's just Lee Sin, but worse. At least Lee has a decent fallback plan when he's not strong anymore. Elise literally becomes useless unless the game's going extravagantly...and it rarely ever does.

I can't remember the last time I won with an Elise on my team.

14 Comments

KoKobotoMay 3, 20172 votes

Sounds like you and your team doesn't know how to end game early with Elise.

chipndip1May 3, 20174 votes

How is that MY job? I'm not the moron playing Elise.

GiveMeUrMilkMay 3, 20171 votes

Sounds like you have never had a good Elise play with you. She is still very useful late game. Her CC may not do dmg, but it is safer than lee sin's and has a much lower cool down. If the Elise fails to end the game early then she should be building tanky so that she can still remain relevant.

Yes, it is not your fault for your teammate picking Elise. But it is your fault for not knowing your team's win conditions. if Elise is the only early game champ on your team then that is no problem, but if you typically play an early game champion and fail to end early(like the Elise's you mentioned) then you are just as much at fault.

chipndip1May 3, 20171 votes

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Sounds like you have never had a good Elise play with you. She is still very useful late game. Her CC may not do dmg, but it is safer than lee sin's and has a much lower cool down. If the Elise fails to end the game early then she should be building tanky so that she can still remain relevant.

You realize this is the same pattern of nearly every diver in the game, right? What do divers have in common? They fall off.

Yes, it is not your fault for your teammate picking Elise. But it is your fault for not knowing your team's win conditions.

I'M THE FUCKING SUPPORT. ELISE IS THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE EXPLOITING AND SAVING WIN CONDITIONS. SHE'S THE FREAKING JG.

KoKobotoMay 3, 20171 votes

Well if you want to ignore the Elise on your team then go ahead. Not my problem lol

chipndip1May 3, 20171 votes

Even if I were entertain your train of thought, you DO realize that if the Elise makes poor choices on who to gank to get fed/put behind, we ain't winning early anyway. Junglers have the most control of the match in the game. What the heck am I going to do about my Elise continually ganking top when the enemy there is 0/6 while no one's helping my lane out? Turning Elise's advantage into additional power isn't a burden of knowledge meant for a fucking support player, but rather THE FUCKING ELISE PLAYER.

KoKobotoMay 3, 20171 votes

Umm idk tell her not too lol. Usually when I get an Elise player we manage to end the game early so uhh sucks to be you I guess lol.

chipndip1May 4, 20171 votes

So why even comment? The post is about how bad she is IF you don't end early. You come out of the bushes and say "END EARLY SUCKS TO BE YOU!"

Like what did you add to the conversation?

KoKobotoMay 4, 20171 votes

Well that's all the advice I can give you. If you and your teammates can't end early what else can I say. As I said, this has never been the case for me. Sure I get bad Elise players but I get bad players in any role including myself in general lol. From your experience Elise is equivalent to 100% loss rate when on your team. If my advice to end early doesn't help what else can I say, I don't have a 100% loss rate with Elise on my team lol.

Sucks to be you I guess :P

chipndip1May 4, 20171 votes

It HAS happened to you, given you've had bad Elise players.
OBVIOUSLY this is a "Sucks to be me" situation in a "Sucks to be me" thread.
My job is to accent the power of my team, not drive it. If my Elise doesn't have a driver's license, all I can do is nudge the breaks a bit before she crashes my team into a ditch. I simply hate champions that put all their eggs in one basket.

KoKobotoMay 4, 20171 votes

Well yeah, however it's not 100% like you lol which seems really weird xD Also any jungler can do really poorly and be negative for the team. Check out this game where my jungler was intentionally feeding. Also my adc was pretty bad.

http://image.prntscr.com/image/84639774bf4b45c19cd10c6871cddc34.png

I tanked and pressured for our Brand and we came out on top. Now if this jungler was Elise nothing would have changed. I take that back actually, maybe she would've landed some CC lol. The reason I commented was to try and help but if you can't take my advice what can I do lol.

AmihanMay 3, 20171 votes

Elise is one of my champion pool but lately i picking her less due to the fact shes just too squishy for the meta. Another reason is lee sin whos q damage is enough to kill her. If i fall behind in game, i build tank after my ap smite. Some players just keep building ap when theyre already behind wich is not effective or worth it thing to do. She isnt that bad just need a little bit of understanding and play with her weaknesses.