Way more range then nidalee spears had. The damage doesnt even scale from distance so even in melee range she nukes
WHY THE FK ARE THERE 0 complains about Kaisa ON BOARDS? https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Kaisa/ https://lolalytics.com/ranked/kr/diamond/plus/champion/Kaisa/
If you are playing Kaisa and you are somehow not in challenger elo you are straight up trash at this game
Pika Fox6 votesBecause her W travels at the speed of slow as fuck.
Fisher No Chains1 votesI agree it is kind of slow, but its hitbox is somewhat off. Sometimes you don’t expect it to hit but it still hits.
I guess it’s the Riot special when it comes to hitboxes.
Pika Fox2 votesIts hitbox is fine. Hitboxes only ever look off due to elevation, other than grabs that look off because they grab champion edges but the grab animation latches to center.
Poske1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jEkWYvQX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-21T14:16:19.280+0000)
Because her W travels at the speed of slow as fuck.
Rofl that excuse
It has LITERALY 2x the range nidalee Spear has It is about 60% wider then nidalee Spear
It is easier to hit then Nidalee spear all combined
And this is not just about her fking skillshot she needs nerfs even if YOU REMOVE ENTIRE FKING ABILITY FROM HER
Her fountain 10k dmg nuke is broken She has 99 broken builds Her ultimate is extremly anti assassin and it allows her to force which is unhealthy for a champion who can do 1500 damage per second
Every single challenger is a kaisa main
Pika Fox2 votesAnd immediately you lost all potential credibility.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesThe amount of people that don’t understand what old Nidalee’s problems were is just too much.
It wasn’t just because she had a skillshot nuke.
Poske1 votesThe amount of people that don’t understand what old Nidalee’s problems were is just too much.
It wasn’t just because she had a skillshot nuke.
The ammount of people who think that their balance thoughts have any relevance compared to a person who is constantly high elo and multiple times challenger Peeking at top 50 is to much.
Old nidalee? She would go melee range twice per game. Are you trying to tell me other abilities MATTERED. IT was 89% poke, 10% heal and 1% other abilities
KAISA IS NOT PROBLEMATIC JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS FKING SKILLSHOT NUKE, YET HER FKING SKILLSHOT NUKE OUTCLASSES THE OLD NIDALEE NUKE WHICH WAS 89% OF WHAT NIDALEE WAS
She has been at broken state for 3 months now. NONE EVER SAYS ANYTHING, its even to late to fking gut her because now the kaisa mains ll drop 8 fking divisions once it happens (Falling where they belong) those stats ll convince Riot that she is to weak causing another overbuff.
Pika Fox2 votesHow do you think she stayed out of melee range, pray tell? Oh thats right, she was the most mobile champion in the game with only gragas potentially rivling her under ideal circumstances.
Poske1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jEkWYvQX,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-08-21T15:32:24.361+0000)
How do you think she stayed out of melee range, pray tell? Oh thats right, she was the most mobile champion in the game with only gragas potentially rivling her under ideal circumstances.
200 range pounce every 2 seconds =! most mobile champion in a game She stayed out of melee range BECAUSE HER SPEAR HAS 1500 FKING RANGE. Very few dashes can reach her
Kaisa has 3000k range on her Purple goo shit
Just because she would waste time for you low elo players doesnt mean that her pounce is even an average ability
Pika Fox1 votesOk mr bronze. Heres a pro tip; when nid was in her prime, she was by far and wide the most mobile champion in the game. No one came close. 200 pounce that was spamable and could go over walls ontop of a massive movespeed passive is what made her uncatchable. Her spear range wasnt all that great, many champs could flank her or flash dash her ass.
Poske1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jEkWYvQX,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-21T17:04:16.738+0000)
Ok mr bronze. Heres a pro tip; when nid was in her prime, she was by far and wide the most mobile champion in the game. No one came close. 200 pounce that was spamable and could go over walls ontop of a massive movespeed passive is what made her uncatchable. Her spear range wasnt all that great, many champs could flank her or flash dash her ass.
EXCEPT HER POUNCE IS 12I3901381093180% TIMES BETTER TODAY
It can actually fly, it doesnt force nidalee to jump a direction she is facing, the cooldown is still low and ressets
She was also never more mobile then Le blanc, kassadin, riven and like 20 other champions
Pika Fox1 votesKassadin didnt have mana to be as mobile as her, leblanc had better burst mobility but not nearly as much map mobility and also cost her her ult, riven wasnt around at the time iirc but nid is far more mobike than riven ever was, and still is.
Not doing yourself any favors.
Poske1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jEkWYvQX,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-21T18:48:14.781+0000)
Kassadin didnt have mana to be as mobile as her, leblanc had better burst mobility but not nearly as much map mobility and also cost her her ult, riven wasnt around at the time iirc but nid is far more mobike than riven ever was, and still is.
Not doing yourself any favors.
what season are you talking about?
Ap nidale became compettetivly relevant once they nerfed all the other OP champions Before that most efficient way of playing nidalee was toplane AD poke bruiser
Ap nid saw compettetive play at around season 4ish if i had to estimate around siege comps
This thread isnt here to compare the power of spear and purple gue reggarldess I just want to raise the avaraness that kaisa is op. Been that way for 3 months kinda tired of it
Look I have been playing this game since 2009. At most I had a 2 week break You are vastly overating her pounce ussualy by the time she had her 2nd pounce she was caught
Pika Fox1 votesHotshotgg was playing nid since s1. Wasnt until s4 that she ended up being nerfed after riot finally decided that her being the most complex champion in the game didnt mean she should be better than every other pick when mastered.
No, youre undervaluing her pounce. It single handedly broke her with her heal and passive. Catching her was impossible, because even if you did use your burst mobility to get to her, she just healed your minimal leftover damage then ran away.
Poske1 votesLook maybe I am undervaluing her pounce because my champion pool has always been hypermobile / control based. But due to sheer ammount of experience I doubt it...
I would never claim that Pounce is any more then 20% of what nid was Its more important today
This is also a nerf Kaisa thread IDC about nidalee
Pika Fox2 votesFinally, someone else who gets it.
lightwolf10302 votesHard to land, high risk high rewards
Quiet Dude2 votesShe farts a big purple cloud that travels at the speed of smell, and you let it hit you?
Khristophoros2 votesNidalee's spear in season 3 did way more dmg and had a lower CD
max damage: 575 + 162.5% AP on a 6 second cooldown
Jaspers1 votesI agree with you, hate her W. Massive range, no indicator like Jhin's W so you can avoid it, can appear from fog of war. It's stupid as it also procs her passive which can do % HP damage and has a cooldown reset on hit. Her in ARAM is bullcrap. Sadly, people will downvote this for some reason.
Poske1 votesI agree with you, hate her W. Massive range, no indicator like Jhin's W so you can avoid it, can appear from fog of war. It's stupid as it also procs her passive which can do % HP damage and has a cooldown reset on hit. Her in ARAM is bullcrap. Sadly, people will downvote this for some reason.
Its really not just about her W
Her stupid sprinkler ability is a no counterplay broken nuke Her free Vayne styling is dumb to. (0 REASON TO EVER PICK VAYNE AS long as kaisa exists) Her ultimate is straight up ridicilus
Jaspers1 votesAgreed on everything. She has one skillshot which has a massive range. A better Syndra passive that isn't even her passive. Her passive. Stealth. An auto lock on ability, it's not even a clickshot, it's just press button do damage. I laned in top lane against it once. I could do nothing against it.
I'd say only 1 champ released in the last year has been both fun to play and fair to play against and that is Kayn.
Rock MD1 votesUh...
I was under the impression Kai'sa had too much safety and burst damage, making her an incredibly hard target to kill while isolated and an even harder target to kill in a teamfight.
Mizaya1 votesThis is hardly a problem unless you're playing against AP kaisa in aram
Poske1 votesThis is hardly a problem unless you're playing against AP kaisa in aram
Idk what kind of kaisas you people face but ap kaisa is common in high elo
Literaly same dps as ad kaisa but has nidalee poke Granted Stormazor rush is common nowdays
Mizaya1 votesThe build I see is stormrazor, rageblade, then runaans. Then you might get a nashors or IE. Either way, not heavily itemizing into making your W deal a decent amount of damage.
SoullessFlunky1 votesLemme guess. Kaisa just shit all over you last game? Lol