Why swain is able to ulti for a centuary?

KONO RUBICK DA··2 votes·668 views

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swain problem wasn't damage, you need to revert your useless nerf and make his ulti costs 0.75% of his mana + a fixed amount of mana.

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venomous frost5 votes

item 3027 rework is the reason, you hit him he gets mana.

Boulderox1 votes

He gains mana from being hit AND HE HEALS OFF THE MANA HE SPENDS PER CROWS. IE HEALING OFF BOTH RoA and his crows.

venomous frost1 votes

but his ult healing was never a problem because he ran oom so quick, after roa rework he now gains both permanent mana and permanent sustain while fighting

Boulderox1 votes

Yes and that is the trouble, but he theoretically has two different heals off of his ult.

ThePartyLeader4 votes

What do Centaurs have to do with his ult?

I could see hecarims ult to be centaury, but Morgana's snare feels like it last for centuries.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

my bad, i wanted to say century instead of centuary

Friendly Ram1 votes

Stop punching yourself.

The Last Ballad1 votes

So it increasing in mana the longer it is on doesn't do it for you?

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

doesn't matter, i played against a swain he ultied for a very long time and STILL was like 1/2 of his mana, they need to make the cost 12 + 0.7% of max mana each seconds to prevent him from abusing a lot of mana.

jusho11 votes

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doesn't matter, i played against a swain he ultied for a very long time and STILL was like 1/2 of his mana, they need to make the cost 12 + 0.7% of max mana each seconds to prevent him from abusing a lot of mana.

you do realize the more you attack him the more mana he gets tanks to rod?

X8ViEhkPS01 votes

Keep in mind his ult costs an increasing amount of mana per second. 25 for the initial cast then an additional 5 mana per second.

For him to keep his ult up for at least 10 seconds it does cost him 475 mana.

Edit: You know that mana scaling is a gargantuan buff. If Swain had 3k mana to keep his ult up it would only cost 222 mana.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

yea, you're right, i just threw some random numbers, but you know 400 mana is nothing for swain, the last swain i played against has 2800 mana

LadyRenly1 votes

his ult doesn't last for that long, its mana cost increases the longer it goes on

B00B001 votes

Why stand in it?

yukumari1 votes

Same issue with Kassadin Right now. He can ult for years and years because of the new mana Itemization.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Same issue with Kassadin Right now. He can ult for years and years because of the new mana Itemization.

And people said the mage itemization went to sht. It looks like they were wrong, by a long shot.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

Eh. I wouldn't compare the two. I don't even build ROA on Kass.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

yea but kassadin isn't as tanky as swain,idk didn't play against kassadin.

Zalieri1 votes

Y ou just build a item 3165 and its ez life

Boulderox1 votes

Wrong, once a meh score swain, last patch survived a 4v1 because of RoA, ult, and we had 2 executioners calling, it didn't matter...

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

you do know that you need him to be under40% hp right? and i can't buy item 3123 on darius (yes i was darius top against swain)

Zalieri1 votes

That is an insta win if your darius.... Built in bleed out.....

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