He may be balanced, he may not, I don't know but....

The Great Divide··26 votes·1,911 views

God I hate Jarvan. Between his tankiness, his long range mobility that is able to cross obscene distances, and his ability to one shot teams after completing this fun item item 3147 , I'm just sick of seeing him.

Am I alone in this? Are others just tired of Jarvan in their games?

44 Comments

EternalShock6 votes

your most played is anivia.

id prefer a champ that didnt have infinite wave clear after certain items and was able to one shot much less half shot my squishy team mates with a q e .

not saying shes op but shes just as annoying.

The Great Divide5 votes

Touché I guess...?

I find Anivia to play against is much more fun and doable than Jarvan but to each their own.

EternalShock1 votes

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The Great Divide6 votes

Ironically I haven't downvoted you because I don't downvote posts. But I guess others don't like your viewpoint shrug

Also saying I'm a "kid" and being insulting certainly doesn't help you garner any more respect :/

EternalShock1 votes

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The Great Divide4 votes

I've had my butt served by an Anivia a few times. Yeah it's not fun, I will agree. But to me, I'd rather face an Anivia than a Jarvan. I find his annoyances more tilting than hers. And that's different for every person with every champion....

I really don't see what you're so tenaciously trying to argue.

TheHappyReaperz2 votes

I love it when a champions first items are Catalyst and Tear, and her E still deals half my health. That is one of the reasons I play Karthus top, not mid.

Snowplosion4 votes

I hate both so... there?

Bronze 6 Yasuo3 votes

I was starting to like you until I found out you play anivia.

Karunamon3 votes

That works on precisely one champion on a high CD, she's insanely mana hungry, puts the "immobile" in immobile mage, and is basically worthless except for initiating ganks for JG early game.

EternalShock1 votes

she also puts the melee in melee.

she is not "basically worthless" or else she wouldnt be played as much in higher elos.

maybe dont base ur information off a few games?

Karunamon1 votes

Are.. are we still talking about anivia? Because she's not a melee champ.

Also, I said "early game". Read the entire post next time.

taleofsonata2 votes

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your most played is anivia.

id prefer a champ that didnt have infinite wave clear after certain items and was able to one shot much less half shot my squishy team mates with a q e .

not saying shes op but shes just as annoying.

Anivia the champion that counters the current Meta Champion is op? Hello are you just dumb? If she didn't exist we have to deal with amount of absurd shit all the time.

Handin Out Naps1 votes

Has she been countering the entire meta for months now too? Just wondering if thats why she always has like a 54 wr.

Bronze 6 Yasuo6 votes

Jarvan's kit is too overloaded

Passive: Makes his first auto attack hit like a truck especially with lethality

Q: shreds armour and allows you to knock up more than 1 enemy with the e q combo

W: shield that scales with maximum health and slows in an aoe

E: gives a shit load of attack speed and let's you knock up enemies with e q combo

R: deals a shit load of damage and you aren't escaping unless you have a dash or summoner 4

And he's a S tier champ. Pretty strong.

JackMcSnipeyz6 votes

I dont think you know what over loaded means. Hint: OP/strong =/= overloaded

Bronze 6 Yasuo1 votes

Exactly

Anonagon12 votes

I think its a stretch to call him overloaded. The only thing that he does that's atypical of a champion of his class is the AoE attack speed buff of his E, which really isn't even what makes Jarvan an issue. Jarvan's kit has problems regardless of whether or not its overloaded.

Hibeki5 votes

Jarvan unlike other champions has to fully commit to something. And his kit is not nearly overloaded.

His standard used to do something other than be a marker for Q, it used to give a sizeable attackspeed buff and armor to your team, but they took all that away.

He has to COMMIT. If he jumps away, hes not coming back or else hes not going to have tools to do so.

EQ is highly telegraphed and easily dodgeable, but outside of that all he has is auto attacks. Any sort of mobility, cc, or knockbacks and hes just so sad. If you can dodge the EQ combo and just dash away, he will walk away in tears every time.

Also it does not give a shitload of attack speed. His attack speed base is low to compensate, and it gives 18% on active max last time i checked.

DrAtomMagnumMDPh2 votes

The ability gives 25 percesnt as passively and the standart gives the same aoe stacking with itself at level 5.

Mandalorian 1176 votes

I keep on wondering why Jarvan isn’t played to much. It might just be me, but I almost never see him. When I do however I’m just like “Welp. Either I’m gonna lose and have a lot less hair on my head , or win with a lot less hair on my head.”

Somebody Love Me1 votes

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I keep on wondering why Jarvan isn’t played to much. It might just be me, but I almost never see him. When I do however I’m just like “Welp. Either I’m gonna lose and have a lot less hair on my head , or win with a lot less hair on my head.”

He was pick/ban in worlds and has been played a lot lately. Idk why people haven't been seeing him

JarPoop IV4 votes

He has been a consistent staple since season 1 lol. There is a reason why he was the victorious skin. Not popular? maybe. Definitely strong since forever. Maybe the power fantasy just doesn't appeal to everyone

DaNinad1 votes

He has a 20% pick rate apparently

EkyonKun6 votes

Jarvan IV.

Nearly completely useless against mobile champions. Almost entirely overpowered against immobile champions.

: ^)

J4 Ulted Mexico5 votes

I don't have to worry about playing against Jarvan because I'm the one abusing him ! [slayer-jinx-wink]

The Great Divide4 votes

REEEEEEEEEEEEE (But he's usually my go-to ban now, so you'd have to tilt me with something else ;) )

Slythrin Umbreon5 votes

Vi

Riptwisted4 votes

JarvanIV jungle clear is a little to fast for his ulti to be that good. maybe the new runes slowed his attack speed down enough? Im not sure. seeing way to many Hecarim and assassin jungles.[sg-shisa]

Hibeki4 votes

J4 jungler clear is pretty slow. He gets torn apart by the red side camps because he has no reliable dps output on clearing camps. High cooldowns, low damage, low attack speed base.

You think he has fast clears because hes just doing double buffs and ganking.

JarPoop IV3 votes

Just start red and machete. Jgl clear is decent and safe

Shonjl4 votes

I am not sure why people care if you play Anivia or not. That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Anivia is annoying as fk yes but the point of this post is J4. Just saying they play Anivia so who cares just makes you look retarded. For people busting on OP for saying X when they do Y, you sure are doing the same thing by complaining about OP for playing X and complaining about Y. Stupid hypocrites.

J4 has always been a stupid champ, doesn't help new runes broke damn near every champ that matters so until they get fixed, which knowing Riot means never. Just gotta deal with everything doing a bajillion damage.

(Also side note, J4 is still up there with some of the top banrate champs in the game right now....just saying, J4 is ranked 30 in banrate, out of over 200 ranks, says something there, meanwhile Anivia is a whooping 110. Also J4 has a 10% playrate in both top and bot while Anivia has....2%....again morons are morons)

EinarUlfar4 votes

Well. Jarvan's ability to obnoxiously get onto your carry makes him pretty prevalent in a solid comp. But most importantly, item 3147 still needs it's passive reworked due to how it can break any AD's damage. ):

Kye L93 votes

zoe hentai counts as underaged/loli but jarvan gets to be this aids for this long :/ life sux

Yenn3 votes

Uhh? Jarvan has consistently been one of the top 3 jungles for months. Being ganked by an unavoidable engage from beyond vision range has very limited counter play, especially considering his baseline is tanky enough to make safe turret dives very early.

Friendly Ram3 votes

JARMAN is a great tanky support. lethality is evil so i stay far away.

Doctor Dyment3 votes

Never thought I would see the day when Jarvan IV became the target for complaints. I'm sure there have been people in the past but I certainly don't remember it.

Truly Prideful3 votes

I ban him sometimes when I see him a ton. I play mostly immobile champions so he's not much fun for me. Lol

JarPoop IV3 votes

Funny thing about j4. He has barely been touched since his released. Big changes being removal of his aura from e, ultimate becoming aoe ( for a point and click, u can dodge the damage on this) and health scaling on his w. Besides that, broken purely by items and keystones

Don't touch his royal senpai ass. Just look at how strong items have become on him

The Great Divide1 votes

Oh I completely understand it's items (item 3147 I'm looking at this one in particular). Because in the past, he was much more of a tank. Sure he would do damage, but it was like old sej, he did damage, but aoe lockdown and mobility was his prime, functioning much more like a tank.

I liked that Jarvan more

OverpoweredSoap3 votes

To be fair duskblade makes every ad champion annoying.

MTG Timmy 2 votes

Jarvans fine I rarely see him anymore.

Hügö2 votes

I don't think hes unbalanced. Sure he can oneshot realy easily, but his gap closer is pretty easy to dodge and without it he can't do anything.

DrAtomMagnumMDPh3 votes

His ultimate is a gapcloser to, not just the e q combo.

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