Is it OK not to build Rabadons?

Toxic Diana··1 votes·1,271 views

Say you're playing champions like Ahri, Diana, Taliyah, etc etc. Is it fine not to build rabadons and go for something like Zhonyas & Banshees instead? I feel really stupid asking this despite playing the game for 2 years now but I've always taken rabadons thinking I'd get completely outscaled without it but a plat smurf proved me wrong the other day lol.

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Dead flag blues1 votes

Yes it is, item 3135 item 3151 are a better slot than item 3089 if you're facing tanks

Toxic Diana1 votes

Say the enemy team is very very tanky and you only have slots for 2 more items, how would you decide between item 3135 item 3151 and item 3165 ?

Dead flag blues1 votes

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Say the enemy team is very very tanky and you only have slots for 2 more items, how would you decide between item 3135 item 3151 and item 3165 ?

If they stack hp (DrMundo Sion Chogath you get the idea) item 3151 If they stack MR (Galio Nautilus Maokai ) item 3135 And item 3165, see it like a item 3142, not really an anti-tank item

Zed genius1 votes

It really depends on the game honestly. You can either build it or skip it and go a safer route with other defensive or even pen items. Personally I really value the extra AP and I would build it most of the time tho

DW Diana1 votes

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It really depends on the game honestly. You can either build it or skip it and go a safer route with other defensive or even pen items. Personally I really value the extra AP and I would build it most of the time tho

I agree. I play mainly ap champions and tbh if it's a squishy team then deathcap is good, but I tend to aim for magic pen first through sorc boots and oblivion orb. I find the tankiness from from hp/ap items is far more worthwhile early, whereas dc is more of a late game/im really fucking ahead type item. A good example is Diana. With sudden impact, sorc boots and oblivion orb I do true damage to most squishies, while items like gunblade, ludens, lichbane etc give me the burst I need to 1 shot. Deathcap is only my go to if i've already completed 300 ap worth of items and I don't need a voidstaff/competed morrellos.

Ixoziel1 votes

Depends on which champ you're specifically playing and who you are playing against. If you're playing against a lot of tanks and they're stacking MR then rabadons is unlikely to be as impactful as void staff or liandries. Still, at some point nothing will offer better value than rabadons (unless your champ has horrible ap ratios) because of the sheer amount of AP it gives you. It only gets more valuable as you get more items.

sit kid1 votes

When it comes to full build, rabadons is pretty much nessecary in order to deal the most damage possible. If it means skipping morello or liandries, it is worth.

40% increased AP is ALOT

Death by Glamour1 votes

Diana doesnt need it to burst a squishy arguably ahri doesnt either.

No idea about the stone thrower

Rule of thumb always buy it when playing into a janna, better to over kill than not to kill

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

rab cap has become costly and doesn't really give any benefits besides extra ap O.o the way to play atm is medium ap and full cdr, well to be honest the real way to play is full ad on mages as well.... mages are dead, but i wouldn't buy rab cap unless you are ahead of everyone, a good start = rush rab cap a normal start is go for : item 3003 item 3020 item 3116 or item 3285 item 3165 item 3151 item 3135 or item 3157

mages do more damage full ad than they do full ap O.o

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