i'm just wondering what the community thinks of Yasuo, Riven and Graves

Unpermabannable ··2 votes·422 views

Is armor pen too strong or are they? Because regardless of win rate when these champs get slighly ahead they stomp. Yasuo and Graves can build 0 armor pen / resistances and can still be unkillable. Riven feels like she always has her spells up. How can Riot change these champs to make them have more counterplay?

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Simpumba1 votes

Riven falls off hard unless she goes 10/0 in lane, she's just not fun to vs. Graves is way to strong, and he's getting a hard nerf on his E in pbe, after that i think graves players will stop playing him then. Yasuo is annoying, but not impossible. I'd prefer not to vs him, but I don't think he needs a nerf, maybe something done to his E, other than that i don't care much for him.

Unpermabannable 1 votes

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Riven falls off hard unless she goes 10/0 in lane, she's just not fun to vs. Graves is way to strong, and he's getting a hard nerf on his E in pbe, after that i think graves players will stop playing him then. Yasuo is annoying, but not impossible. I'd prefer not to vs him, but I don't think he needs a nerf, maybe something done to his E, other than that i don't care much for him.

Would you say Riven is overloaded?

Simpumba1 votes

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Would you say Riven is overloaded?

No, riven may seem strong, but that's because she's early/midgame. As much as I hate to say it, it takes a good riven to play her properly. She's not overloaded, but one of those champions that people will think are OP if someone who mains her is playing her.

Rivuo1 votes

I hate riven and yasuo because they always afk or flame.

Not because balance

Also petition to not allow certainlyt make another champ thx

Astôlfo1 votes

All 3 of them are fine. Graves is somewhat arguably overloaded, but I don't recall the exact details of the nerfs they were planning, but if I remember correctly, they were planning to adjust that (they being Riot).

Lugg1 votes

Yas and Riven need reworks. Their kits are pretty unhealthy. Graves is in a pretty good place (IMHO) after the last nerf. He just brings lots of AD to a game with little utility.

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