There has been a champion that's been weak 2 seasons straight. (Maybe longer)

MrNuclearPumpkin··6 votes·788 views

Okay, I really hope that just.. someone from Riot sees this. Just anyone. Literally anyone. Aatrox is a terrible champion.

I'm sorry Aatrox mains, I understand that you might have gone 14/0 in the last three games you played. But... this champion's kit literally makes 0 sense.

So let's look at him. Aatrox is a Fighter/Tank champion that wants to dive in the enemy team, hitting as many as he can with his ultimate, gaining a TON of attack speed, then just smacking on the champions, healing for every 3rd hit or dealing a bunch of damage every third hit.

But...there's a problem with how he works...

I'm just going to post various posts from different websites:

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2wbdac/aatrox_released_a_year_and_eight_months_ago_has/ <--- really nicely detailed post

http://www.lolnexus.com/forums/league-of-legends/general-discussions/62294-opinions-on-aatrox?page=4

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Lmr8EMUT-why-is-aatrox-considered-bad <--- The comments give great explanations

http://apollo-web-na-prod-704019941.us-west-2.elb.amazonaws.com/en/f/3ErqAdtq/d/53l2tcJR?comment=0009


Riot Meddler has made this post about Aatrox: "Long term we'd still like to do some significant work to Aatrox, take advantage of his theme more and make him a champion with more distinct gameplay. That's not currently a scheduled project though, there are other champs we feel need the work more.

We don't want to just leave him as is for an indeterminate period of time however. In the short term as a result we're going to be buffing his passive so its cooldown reduces by level. At present it has a flat 225s CD, we're going to reduce that to 225/200/175/150 at levels 1/6/11/16 in the next patch (5.11), in particular so that Aatrox generally has access to his passive in late game team fights."

All these posts were written ether 1 or 2 years ago. Right now? Aatrox is still very weak.

As he is now, he NEEDS to snowball in order to be relevant and the way that his stats are, the odds are against you.

As a jungler, you're still very squishy and you have absolutely no way to fight the enemy jungler early game if they decide to try and eat you for dinner right after their red buff. So if you're fighting against a Kindred, Lee Sin or any other aggressive jungler, you'll get bullied out of your jungle super hard, they just have a much better kit than you do and are able to just out-duel you level 1-2.

Aatrox needs to be just genuinely better than the other player and flat out outplay them with pure skill in order to come ahead. It feels like you have to output a lot more effort for something with less payout.

I'm not sure if Aatrox needs a minor buff, a major buff or a full on rework, but right now? Something needs to change on him.

Does anyone have ideas on changes?

3 Comments

KillerPenguins7 votes

There's at least 40 champions who have been weaker and had less attention for longer. Riot only balances the frequently played champs unless they're doing a rework these days. The rest of the jostling positions just happen incidentally because of item changes.

VentusDragoon3 votes

As for Aatrox, they've got two options.

Keep his lore, and redo his kit to fit that.

Or.

Keep his kit style, and redo everything else about him.

Currently, he's a super-sustain based champion that's generally supposed to fight like Tryndamere, and is very hard to take down. However, he has a few problems gating that--

%Health damage destroys him.

Anyone who has burst destroys him.

The champion he was made to be at least even with, Tryndamere, destroys him without question in any fight post 6.

He actually doesn't sustain as well as most sustain champs. Swain, Vladimir, Olaf, and even Tryndamere himself outsustain Aatrox.

Aatrox doesn't have that great of damage on each of his hits, unlike Tryndamere.

As with all revival passives, his passive can be very easily negated by Fizz's playful/trickster, or any well timed hard CC. It's supposed to give him a second chance to finish a fight like Tryndamere's ult, but fails to do so.


If Riot wants to reinforce Aatrox's theme, they'll have to make his kit more of a "promotional" style, with abilities or general workings focused on buffing his allies while also leading them. This would require him to be a strong initiator (Like a tank, but right now, he HAS to initiate second.) If he had an ability or two like GP's old Raise Moral, that would help his theme. In addition, his ult would HAVE to be something that gave him more survivability than his current one-- while his current one does heal a lot, it's still not enough to survive any burst or anything other than a 1v1.

Jeanne fan club2 votes

his e is worthless in his kit, and he needs too many items to be effective

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