Evelynn's rework, what do you guys think?

Linna Excel··1 votes·1,087 views

According to the latest leak:

  • Limited invisibility, only when near a wall
  • Copypasta of either talon's passive or bard's E, as she can sneak through walls
  • Kit designed to be an early game counterjungler instead of an early game ganker
  • Visually inspired by the anime Elfen Lied (naked chick with 2 extra ghost arms)

My first question is, do we need another Shaco... an early game counter jungling assassin with invisibility? Isn't one Shaco enough?

My second question is why does riot want her to counter jungle instead of gank? I know people complain about assassins who can gank, but that's kind of their job. Furthermore if she's going to counterjungle, can she 1v1 Shyvana, Nidalee, Elise, or Lee Sin? Furthermore what about her jungle clear speed and damage taken? If you are going to counter jungle you need to be able to clear quickly without taking much damage.

Third question is how healthy for the game is it if you want her to AFK farm until six and what does she do post six when she's crap? I'm assuming her gameplay will be to sneak in, steal camps, and sneak out rather than 1v1 someone in the jungle. Because invisibility and wall ignoring.

Fourth question is why the wall mechanics/obsession with evelynn? I think that this is a top-down mini-game, but I'd like to be sure.

Fifth question: DPS or burst, AP only or still hybrid? Can I still get TF/Lichbane and spam Q?

Sixth question is why did you guys think Elfin Lied was the best inspiration for her visuals and is this a hint to her story?

Seventh question, and most importantly: did you guys screw up how players approach playing Evelynn? Evelynn is a bit weird in that as an assassin, she has to be a lot more thoughtful and considerate of what she is doing. That was what made her interesting and fun to her players. Did she lose that unique approach? I mean you guys at riot are always complaining about champions being the same and this was one area where Evelynn was unique. _Did you guys done bleeped it up? _

8 Comments

Tiniest Turtle1 votes

Link the leak pls?

FEEDlNG TIME1 votes

She's gonna be really strong imo. I'm really excited to play her now. I always loved the whole ghost pro super stealth part of her, and I think this change will make her a lot more fun to play. Just the fact that she can be near a wall and be right next to you and you still can't see her sounds awesome. Like teemo passive but you can move and stay invis, I love it.

Linna Excel1 votes

I think that's certainly possible. Early game power can get your team snowballing if you know how to use it.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

[...] Elfin Lied [...]

That tilted me so hard. xD It's Elfen Lied, dude. ^^ (Bonus tilt because it is actually a german name and I am a german guy, on top it is one of my all time favourite anime)

So, after getting that out of the way, about the feedback. She actually always was good at counter jungling with her invisibility. It is great for ganking, too. But you can sneak in the enemy jungle without being seen and then steal all their stuff if you know their jungler is on the other side of the map.

Just because she is intended to be a great counter jungler doesn't mean she isn't supposed to gank at all. Rek'Sai was designed to be a great counter jungler thanks to tremor sense and her tunnels. Still decent ganks with knockup though. Maybe she gets some kind of unreliable CC (since she is an assassin it shouldn't be too reliable), so, hard to execute properly, but rewarding if you do.

Walking through walls would be some kind of mobility and even more important escape that she clearly needs as an assassin. Current Evelynn is not really great at escaping, she plays like a diver, staying in the fight. And it kinda fits her thematic if she is "fusing" with the shadow on the wall, traveling along the wall as a shadow and coming out at the other side.

Since she is going to be an assassin, I think she will be focused more around burst than dps. And probably AP only, but that is just an assumption.

Where did you find that Elfen Lied was the inspiration for her design? Did you make that statement because of the tentacles and her being naked? When I was reading that stuff, I was thinking more about Tokyo Ghoul. I doubt that Elfen Lied has any relations to her lore, but hey, I wouldn't even be mad. Like I said, one of my all time favourites.

Linna Excel1 votes

Okay, I edited it to Elfen.

Walking through walls would be some kind of mobility and even more important escape that she clearly needs as an assassin.

I kind of agree that her W isn't great at escaping, but it does let her chase down someone or clears CCs (which is important too).

Since she is going to be an assassin, I think she will be focused more around burst than dps

Well, that's where item 3078 and item 3100 come in on Evelynn. With her Q, they give her a mix of DPS and burst, but not the instant burst that people and riot hate.

Where did you find that Elfen Lied was the inspiration for her design? Did you make that statement because of the tentacles and her being naked?

Well yeah, Lucy's vectors do kind of stand out. Can't say anything about Tokyo Ghoul as I never watched that series.

Chønklord1 votes

##Her passive invisibility around walls and "shadows" is a direct rip off from games like Thief.

Linna Excel1 votes

Yes, that was my gut feeling as well.

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