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The reasoning behind the E change on Azir is disgusting.

Alamander·12/17/2016, 2:49:54 AM·41 votes·2,295 views

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5iqnf9/1216_pbe_update/dbabshw/

TL;DR: Its bugged, so we removed it. You are left with an ability with shit Hp scaling no scaling.

E is kind of a shit ability now. It's a gap closer/mobility spell that is reliant on using all CD's except Ult. To use it aggressively requires you to use your ult or you die almost instantly in most cases.

Where is the satisfaction on Azir's E in his kit and why are we left with a non-standalone spell with no scaling stat on a hyper carry.

I can't find the logic here.

30 Comments

xWaters12/17/2016, 3:06:45 AM11 votes

Glad they took the effort to fix the bug :D!

IxtaliKing12/17/2016, 5:36:04 AM9 votes

To be honest I think his E lost its satisfaction when it lost its knock up, it just felt hollow, weird and was a deal breaker for me. I hope something is done about Azir soon, he's been garbage for too long.

Big Lincoln12/17/2016, 5:38:06 AM9 votes

if they're gonna do this it should at least have a higher base value

Borbland12/17/2016, 11:04:04 AM4 votes

No, it is not a shit ability, it is a valuable escape and an important combo setter.

The bonus health scaling always was a bit useless, since the only way to use it was either by playing full tank Azir (No need to say this is ineffective), or a tiny boost if you bought Rylai's or/and Rod of Ages on him.

No the problem here, is that they realize only now that Azir actually never had any scaling on his shield, and instead of fixing it just simply remove it.

RavenMagus12/17/2016, 11:45:08 AM3 votes

Considering that it's still an incredible dash that allows you to either insec opponents or dash away an incredibly long distance... it seems like a fine spell to me.

They're not saying they tried and failed to remove the bug; they're saying that they think Azir doesn't need the extra shielding.

Dashing over two walls with one spell seems like good satisfaction to me, anyways.

MagicFlyingLlama12/17/2016, 3:05:00 AM2 votes

Remember when it was a knockup stun buggy good ability?

Gregor Gysi12/17/2016, 10:49:08 AM2 votes

Yeah, the hotfix + buff barely compensated the Rylais changes so how about a small base HP buff for Azir?

Enlegacy12/17/2016, 2:18:40 PM2 votes

Consider this: one big thing about Azir's kit that makes him so unbalance is how much is in it. It creates too many problems, and honestly, they are just trimming away excess power from, when considering his kit, one of the best mobility spells in the entire game.

It allows him to dash over 2 different in many cases, making for easy escapes against basically any champ.

it allows him to make a giant insec and send the enemy team barreling into your tanks.

This is not saying he is good right now, cause he definitely isn't, but he is in need of at least one of these mini-reworks, if not a full-fledged rework.

WolfBV12/17/2016, 4:36:02 PM2 votes

So the ability has never given you a shield based on your health because of a bug, so they changed the tooltip to reflect it. Not really removing it if it was never there.

Starboyˇ12/17/2016, 8:46:45 PM2 votes

i remember when it was a knock up, they removed that and it just killed azir for me :/

Bârd12/17/2016, 10:56:18 PM2 votes

IMO, Azir's E hasn't felt good to use offensively since they removed its knockup.

(I mean, the ults following E can be nice, but the ability itself feels like shit)

BakedLotion12/17/2016, 4:54:41 PM1 votes

It was bugged to never apply the scaling so... They really didn't remove anything

AirKingNeo12/17/2016, 6:38:18 PM1 votes

I see it more of "let's remove some of the overloaded-ness out of Azir's kit so he can be buffed in areas". I mean I think the shield is kinda a useless thing but hey if he becomes more healthy of a champion then do it by all means.

XxxLumberJackxxX12/17/2016, 7:44:20 PM1 votes

They've done this a few times. The reason isn't stupid.

Divewing12/17/2016, 11:38:30 PM1 votes

They removed it because Azir is AP, so he's not allowed things that get screwed up because of bugs

Sraeg201312/17/2016, 9:18:10 PM1 votes

Vayne's Tumble was bugged and could crit, so we made it consistent and it isn't a bug anymore. ~ Riot 2016

Seems like making bugs into features is a policy in Riot lately.

Alamander12/17/2016, 7:01:00 AM1 votes

Whatta feels bad ability.

Twitch Chat12/17/2016, 11:48:20 AM1 votes

It's only been a few days since meddler came along saying that they don't want to buff azir and kalista to fully viable levels. It's no surprise that they didn't just throw the bonus health back on there.

Also I don't understand the idea that his dash is a gutted skill. Oh noooooooooo this skill is so useless it only deals damage and gives me a shield and makes me fly across the map to set up a shurima shuffle. Even without a knock up and health scaling it's still an amazingly overloaded skill.

TyrekGoldenspear12/17/2016, 10:20:46 PM1 votes

Except a good Azir only uses his dash aggressively to shuffle.

In every other case he uses it as an escape or juke.

Arsenic Sulfur12/18/2016, 8:03:23 AM1 votes

You don't HAVE to use Q. Sure you won't go a meaningful distance but W's cast range is big enough to wall hop.