MALZ CAN CLEAR DRAGON AT LEVEL 2

tXQbsPrjN5·May 7, 2016·2 votes·751 views

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

NERFING HIS MANA AND HIS ULT DAMAGE WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE CAN SOLO HERALD AT 5 AND BARON AT 10

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

10 Comments

RebonackMay 7, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Brandon Heat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iu5ulb1O,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-07T03:23:19.438+0000)

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

NERFING HIS MANA AND HIS ULT DAMAGE WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE CAN SOLO HERALD AT 5 AND BARON AT 10

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

He could do it before his remake, too, and no one lost their shit about it.

Why are you complaining now?

Mirage SeraphMay 7, 20162 votes

I think Malz needed to be 3 before dragon solo but I know he could solo Herald at 4, maybe 3 but never bothered since solo'ing drag first was still better.

Either way. Yeah. We get it guys, Malz is broken, complain about the actually broken things not the things he's been doing for years.

LoLKiruMay 7, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mirage Seraph,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iu5ulb1O,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-07T03:32:57.226+0000)

I think Malz needed to be 3 before dragon solo but I know he could solo Herald at 4, maybe 3 but never bothered since solo'ing drag first was still better.

Either way. Yeah. We get it guys, Malz is broken, complain about the actually broken things not the things he's been doing for years.

His jungle clear is significantly safer now so he's MUCH better at that as well, but its beyond me why they're nerfing the cost on Q and W and damage on his ult, was his lowered cost and damage really an issue? Legitimately asking since I haven't kept up with the game over the last few days.

I was under the impression it was significantly harder for him to 100 to 0 someone since his ult doesn't do any flat damage anymore. If jungle Malzahar was their intended target for the nerfs, wouldn't it be easier to just make voidlings spawn less frequently VS large monsters?

OT: Fiddle can clear dragon at level 2, Rift Herald at 4 or 5 (and I admittedly have no idea if he can do baron or not) with little to no risk to himself, other than someone just walking in on him doing it (but literally everyone runs this risk)

XilixerMay 7, 20161 votes

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His jungle clear is significantly safer now so he's MUCH better at that as well, but its beyond me why they're nerfing the cost on Q and W and damage on his ult, was his lowered cost and damage really an issue? Legitimately asking since I haven't kept up with the game over the last few days.

I was under the impression it was significantly harder for him to 100 to 0 someone since his ult doesn't do any flat damage anymore. If jungle Malzahar was their intended target for the nerfs, wouldn't it be easier to just make voidlings spawn less frequently VS large monsters?

OT: Fiddle can clear dragon at level 2, Rift Herald at 4 or 5 (and I admittedly have no idea if he can do baron or not) with little to no risk to himself, other than someone just walking in on him doing it (but literally everyone runs this risk)

your right. they are nerfing his other areas for no reason. even though the only thing breaking him is his voidlings in jungle......like....thats it. just the fact that voidlings take the hits for you instead of you is what makes me op. his damage overall is crap, voidlings cant be used in lane to push cuz tower insta kills them. should enemy kill the first voidling your waiting on a long ass cooldown with nothing to deal damage with.

fun fact. with this "rework" malzahar lost 100 damage on his q and e WITH reduced scalings in ap.

RebonackMay 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mirage Seraph,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iu5ulb1O,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-07T03:32:57.226+0000)

I think Malz needed to be 3 before dragon solo but I know he could solo Herald at 4, maybe 3 but never bothered since solo'ing drag first was still better.

Either way. Yeah. We get it guys, Malz is broken, complain about the actually broken things not the things he's been doing for years.

Nah, he could pull it off at level 2.

Kill Blue with a hard leash and then immediately go murder Dragon. It could be touch and go if you messed up at all, but soloing dragon at level 2 was something of a rite of passage for AD Malz jungling.

tXQbsPrjN5May 7, 20161 votes

CAUSE THEY FUCKING RUINED THIS CHAMPION AND NOW THEY'RE NERFING HIM CAUSE OF HIS FUCKIGN JUNGLING

DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND

kJsMay 7, 20161 votes

they could just nerf his spell damage against monsters...

No flash no lifeMay 7, 20161 votes

? Ok and?

If your point is being able to solo dragon at lvl 2 is op, then you're not making much of a point. Pantheon with blue buff back then could also solo dragon at lvl 2. Sure, they changed dragon's auto attack a while later, but even during that period of time when panth was able to do so, it wasn't considered outrageous or anything.

On a side note, malzahar's voidings are getting nerfed according to hotfix so he might not be able to do that after next patch.

lolipopevelynnMay 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Brandon Heat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iu5ulb1O,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-07T03:23:19.438+0000)

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

NERFING HIS MANA AND HIS ULT DAMAGE WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE CAN SOLO HERALD AT 5 AND BARON AT 10

DO YOU UNDERSTAND RIOT?

many champions can solo drag pre 6.

however it might be a bigger deal now with dragon changes, but i havent played the game in the 6.9 update (busy with overwatch) so i dont know how impactful the new dragons are.

KathashMay 7, 20161 votes

neutral monster damage on PBE is at 50% right now...they cut a third of the power...as well as increasing the mana cost... and nurfing the damage on his ult which was already weak on its own...