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Why do people turn stupid in RANKED but play well in Normals?

Occams Raiser··30 votes·10,768 views

I have been in games personally that will have all bronze and and unranked, and they play like champs. I get excited and want to play a ranked game with the good energy. Immediately Things turn to shit. One day I played 2 normals and 2 ranked. It happens the same. I realize that these are not the same people so its not scientific, but doesn't it kinda feel this way to you too? There are those games where you get a higher div player in normals but I never look at their MMR to see if they belong with us. It is sad if they do because sometimes they are silver 3 and I am a bronze two.

Look at the games where everyone is on your same level and see what happens vs your normals games. I am expecting the randomized games to be blowouts one way or anther but they aren't usually. In contrast ranked games are usually blow outs one way or another. I have a bad record so it is usually in the enemies favor.

I am a Supp main as well. I still don't know how that matters besides if you are not the carry perhaps statistically you have 25% greater chance team failing because only carries are being considered and you are not one of them. But if support doesn't count, why do people get mad if they get a bad support? I should piss you off way less than if you had a bad carry. But that doesn't seem to be the case either.

55 Comments

aaronconlin17 votes

I've had more trolls, feeders, afks etc in ranked games than I have in normal games, and I've played a shitton more normals. Something is very wrong here

Occams Raiser3 votes

Me too

Hawkefire1 votes

The reason for that is because people care about ranked and thus trolls will abuse that. People care significantly less about normals because losing a normals game doesn't really have any outside effect other than a loss. When you lose a ranked game however you do have something to lose from it (namely your rank) and thus the area where you would expect the most competitive environment is actually the area where the most trolls will propagate due to this simple fact.

Occams Raiser1 votes

It's a damn shame you are right.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

By orders of magnitude.

Vicvictorw5 votes

Normal matches are generally considered to be "practice" mode, so you see players willing to work together to improve themselves and learn how to play their champ proper. They'll be open to leadership and suggestion.

Meanwhile the average player in Ranked merely thinks they know all there is to know. Why else would they be playing in big-boy Ranked mode?

When the reality is that they don't know a damn thing, get destroyed by people that do know what they're doing, and then grow frustrated and rage/troll their team.

SneaselSawashiro1 votes

Not enough knowledge to go around. Too many of us dumb fucks that live and breathe in this realm while the rest just laugh and mock us with no mercy because they're just better and stronger.

Frozen3791 votes

Don't forget that you have to act like they were sensitive retarded autists (an actual meaning of words, not insult) or you will hurt their feelings and they will troll even harder. Did I mention that riot supports them? That's why report system, ONLY for muting, is a thing, where feeders with 30 deaths even on short games still thrive.

Silent Cal3 votes

I do a lot better in ranked and see better players in ranked. I screw around in normals. idk what you're saying from my perspective. :/

Frozen3791 votes

I win with 2 feeders just by screwing around with retarded builds.

I tryhard as support in ranked and all I do is ending up using sona's/braum's ults to save some stupid katarina who already is 3/7, so she won't start feeding because I "didn't help her". All my teams do is 1v3 enemy teams (1 from my team, 3 enemy team obviously...)

Ale non è male3 votes

It is not like people turn suddenly stupid or suddenly better It is mainly a psychological question. The fact that rank just exist completely skew the approach of the people to the game, as they feel the urge to carry, especially if they aim to reach the same division or better of a friend or a certain division to get the prestige/rewards of a certain division Also, especially in low divisions , rank is not a strong meter of the true skill level of a player, as it is not like a true Silver III-IV skill level player on Support position can carry consistently games at Bronze I-II level, for example, the initial placements and being carried or not in those can dictate the rank of such players for seasons as getting in Silver rather than in bronze can end up in having better players around you that can carry, and quite honestly the skill difference is so little that even if you not belong there and you can suck another can easily carry more and lead you to win anyway

I do not play ranked (yet) for a my choice, but I have a friend which, when he actively plays LOL (aka is not caught up by other games es. destiny) complain about one of his friend who is like 1 division better than him even though he is on the same level skill wise if not even probably worse than him at the game...and in all honesty, having seen both of them play together for a number of games and having spectated games of both, he is right at complaining about the difference in their ranks. There is no way he is sitting in B II-III and the guy is same level/worse than him is in S II-III and that in the past season he got struck by end of season frenzy promotion and didn't get to Silver while the other guy lucked out S I placement, went all way down to Silver ranks till to the point he got demoted like a pair of days before the end of the season on B I, scraped out a lucky last minute promotion to S V while being carried in those games to get Silver rewards by the end of the season, and when placement come one guy get unlucky again and finish in mid-low Bronze and the other one lucked out again and finish like in low S I-high S II, from where he is starting to fall down again despite kep regularly playing When you see that guys of your level are costantly higher than you because of those reason, and you get angry at your allies making mistakes that cost you games and don't allow you to go up or got angry at enemies getting lucky in trades barely escaping with like 10 hp that subsequently lead you to a loss, and you lose your chill, you start playing worse especially as far as decision making goes, and this generate a chain efect because with your lower level of play you lead other guys to lose, which cause some of them to enter in the same state of mind and so on

In normal there isn't this factor because after all you can get to next game with little consequences on the long term, even though I can still get mad at the time with guys that completely derp around (some of the guys that says "you can go whatever you want in normal" are probably the guys that ruin the most normal games for the others), guys that do over and over the same dumb mistakes without even trying to adjust (and you can see when someone is trying to adjust and when someone is not by stubbornly repeating the same things over and over), or just keep not listening and doing stupid things that lead to loss or lead you to get mad and make you commit mistakes that causes losses or both(and the last occurence happen to me at times, I do stupid mistakes after got mad because people take stupid decisions that are leading us to loss, further worsening the situation).

And also, I would point out, rank should tell you how strong are you in comparisons with the other ranked player, but the population of people that play normal is far superior there are a lot of guys that don't get to ranked because they don't like the environment, don't have good connections/computer and don't want to disconnect during ranked games as it would be frustating or feel they would be at too big at disadvantage because of it and they wouldn't have fun by being at such disadvantage, guys that don't believe to have a large enough champ pool or good enough on a mani champ to compete in ranked, guys which have no time/no interest to keep grinding rank to reach what, mid-high Silver at best given their skill level while still having played a good mount of games, so that your strength compared to the whole population of bronze-silver level player that have never approached ranked cahnge as there are no placements, promotion/demotions or things like those that factor in but just by you should get to your appropriate rank by your sheer playing and performances that in the long term translates in an accurate around 50% W/L ratio at certain level of competition

CubedJustice1 votes

Tl;dr

Occams Raiser1 votes

read most.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

tl;dr There's pressure in ranked games clouding their heads that isn't there in normals.

Ale non è male1 votes

Tl; dr I'm kinda bad in expressing my thought in a concise manner :D

lDontLiftIcarry1 votes

I've had good and bad players in normals and ranked. the only difference is idc what happens in a normal. I can play w/e I want in any role I want and its fun for me.

Maybe a little leblanc support/ Or some nocturne jungle (I havent jungled nocturne in ranked on a regular basis since season 2 basically) maybe some karthus jungle.

Maybe some shaco support/mid/top ap or ad idc.

Maybe some nunu ap TOP/support.

Maybe some janna mid/top (havent done AP janna in ranked since they gutted her W cooldown lol and nerfed the shit out of her Q)

zane yalgir1 votes

okay so no post but something got deleted... right....

LordGeovanni1 votes

every one wants to be a carry so they can say they carried and pwned everyone so when they do they need some one to blame there is no point in being a support that cant do his own damage until gold bronze and silver is a trap.

Occams Raiser1 votes

I am seeing that.

Siyther1 votes

i always play supports that can do damage as well cause some times mid game u have to start building dps cause the team is short on it.

KidKaiser1 votes

HAHAHHAHA GIT GUD!

but if u can/ it's more enjoyable if u have a duo for ranking. 1 less guy to worry about screwing u over.

as for normals. everyone's just more chill there. you can go whatever u want and no one gives a damn. rank is just meta this meta that. oh u didnt pick zed or leblank mid? gg reported. oh is that a wukong mid? gg we lose.

the game ended at champ select. 20min+ suffering is pretty bad for your health.

Killer of Poros1 votes

Because matchmaking in normal is skewed to all hell with silvers on one team with all diamonds and plats on the other. It's almost always a stomp so it looks like people who are doing well are trying but the real reason is because the difference in skill level is extremely high.

SporadicInanity1 votes

If my and several friends' experiences are anything to go by, there are several players who just play little to no ranked at all but still play the crap out of the game. I've been around for a long time but I prefer to play the sillier (more fun) builds and whatnot rather than just play to win, so I avoid ranked all together. There are tons of players who don't have that overly competitive spirit who just like to play their favorite champions when and how they want so they stick to normals.

It may be a bold statement because I will never have a way to back it up but from what I hear and see of ranked I'm VERY confident that if I give it some effort I can easily land in high gold, low plat AT LEAST. I just don't care enough to blow time on that kind of a grind.

Occams Raiser2 votes

Come back too me after you play just 10 provisional games.

Scarlet Firefly1 votes

If you're only getting Silvers while you are Bronze, it's not so bad. But I'm Silver 2 and more often than not, there are Platinum and Diamond players in the enemy team, with a total of 200-300 MMR difference between teams. Matchmaking sucks, especially in normals.

NoMonku1 votes

Ranked has a lot more ragers and quitters because they can't handle the loss. Another thing with my normals, though, is I end up playing against a lot of plats/diamonds (I"m gold) so they are less prone to these negative behaviors.

CubedJustice1 votes

Pressure. Coming down on me, pressing down on you.

SexyTaylorSwift1 votes

That's because Lyte's fucked up system favors those people in ranked games. It is the reason that I'm done playing League lol. I'm too competitive of a person for MY RATING to be punished because I get an afk teammate.

LordGeovanni1 votes

im so competitave that when a person goes afk i actually consider the teams now even because i always try to bring enough game for 2 people but other people who dont believe they can do shit and probly for good reason causes me the game when they give up or cant switch from team fighting to split pushing because they dont have a functioning brain

RedCyclone1 votes

I have just finished my 10 provisional games and oh my fucking god, they were the most depressing games I have ever had in a long time

die 2 times in lane "gg im afk now" 3 occasions where the game was 4/3 v 5 (2 times my team 1 time enemy team) 6 of my losses resulted in an assassin getting ultra fed 10 minutes into the game (rendering my squishy ass completely useless) the kicking and screaming when I get to pick mid and play my best champion in mid (Sona) "waaah it's not METAAA" every single time I played support my adc decided it was a good idea to push the lane every time even though we had them zoned all the time finger pointing usually leading to the game being the jungler or supports fault somehow

fuck ranked, i went 3/7 and got seeded into plat 5 by some divine miracle, i am glad I now only have to play one ranked game a month My normal games are a million times more sophisticated and enjoyable

Occams Raiser1 votes

I have learned that I have to tell an adc where to stand and to freeze lane. I stand where I tell him that I will go "no further than". If wants to go deep. it will be on his own. I a set engages. In bot lane I am the Shot caller. If I am going to sacrifice my life for his, he will be listening to me. If not.... lots of luck. They do what i say more often than not. After all, the alternative is to put themselves in gank territory. I am starting to think most people don't know how to freeze lane Or cs on the move.

I don't know how you got plat five with 3 wins except to have never lost a normal game.

Siyther2 votes

i smell bs on that one

Occams Raiser1 votes

You are the one ADC that stands next to river bush. I will be 800 units behind you safe.... where you should be csing from. No bullshit

chipndip11 votes

  1. Support is just as important as the carry.

  2. I know what you mean. Ranked is really frustrating for me. I get some of the worst players I've seen in my entire gaming life, which spans 2 decades almost, from playing ranked here, outside of mere toddlers chewing on controller buttons. A Draven should NOT be doing half the damage of his support Sona in team fights, nor should he go 0/10/10. Like...freaking NO.

LordGeovanni1 votes

supports are early game carries they get the carry fed so the carry can carry mid game carries arnt shit without supports

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

I can tell you one thing, the adcs in silver are garbage and it makes playing support pure hell. Do you know how fucking many Ezreals I've had that rushed tear and boots while the enemy adc has bf/pickaxe? They chase after them, die, and wonder how they lost the trade. They have the reactions of bots on top of that.

Occams Raiser1 votes

I treat every EZ with no skin as a loss.

FistOfSharkiesha1 votes

I might just start dodging or pick an ADC and share cs because I'm tired of them trying to charge a tear when they're 0/5/0 and using their ult to wave clear. I ban him when I'm captain just so I don't have to deal with him being on my team. Ezreal is a retard magnet.

Occams Raiser1 votes

Its been said that you can pick carry champs to supp in low elo. everything goes.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

different MMR.

My normals MMR is higher so I get matched with good players like silver and even some gold.

Ranked I get match with B5 because I'm b5

Silents4291 votes

Because more pressure and stress people are putting on themselves.

Right now everyone gets told THEY have to carry, THEY will be in a game full of trolls, THEY need to win the lane, THEY need to play what is "meta"

Play normals and all that goes away. The irony is the only real difference between normal and ranked is the mindset you bring with you, Go into a ranked game to enjoy yourself, don't act like your life is on the line, not only will you be calm for the game and play better, but you won't get as discouraged when or if you lose the game.

Tdlr: People need to just calm down.

Aboylova921 votes

There's a pressure that's not there in a normal game. Same reason you see certain players in sports that just can't handle the pressure of a cup, playoff, championship, ect series, but play great in the normal season.

Also some players aren't playing with their best champs, so if you come up with one of your mains, it's most likely going to go in your favor. When you play ranked, "generally" people are using their best champions.

This can be applied to the trolls, feeders, and AFKs. In a normal game, it means essentially nothing if they feed or afk, other than wasting your time. In a ranked game, they get the added benefit of you getting annoyed at you because it could be a promo game, you lose LP, ect.

Biffolo1 votes

Pressure to perform/

Sinlaire1 votes

I have a 60% win rate in Normals. I have about a 35-40% win rate in ranked,

people in Ranked games are just plain just plain nuts. anything they could possibly blame a losing game on other than themselves and it happens.

I swear to god once someone says "Oprah made me lose" I've seen it all.

SneaselSawashiro1 votes

Simple. This is because I'm part of the example.

Us humans are just dumb fucks. Simple as that.

We're just meant to break promises to do something so simple and "smart" and yet we have to fail to crush everyone's morale.

I've had games where I play my best champ(s) (Yi, Wukong and/or Yasuo), and yet for some fucking reason I have to fail in lane so hard. I'm normally better than this because I'm level 5 on those fucking champs.

But no, I have to carry mistakes to my fucking grave because of pure stupidity any pro-player will laugh at me for. "HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR THIS ACCOUNT"

Then comes ranked, where I'm fighting against players who show NO mercy. I'm not part of the team who's already long-ready to fucking win for real.

And pretty much the reason why a dumb fuck likes me lose is that "oh, I guess I didn't select the counterpick". "WELL NOW, STOP PLAYING THOSE CHAMPS AND PLAY META; I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF THEY DON'T SUIT YOUR STYLE." "PLAY THOSE META CHAMPS OR LOSE, YOU DUMB FUCK."

If I keep forgetting so much important shit, then why am I even breathing, let alone still playing this damn game?

It's all almost like this: Your battlefield advantage is lost in an instant, all your strategies have failed, your advice is and council is very poor, all your troops are starving to death, all your best officers are fucking slain, your damn escape point is sealed off and the enemy commander just wants you executed. GG.

Frozen3791 votes

Don't forget that you have to act with them like they are autistic retarded degenerate manchilds (in a good way, be nice, literally shove yourself up their butt, just not to hurt their feelings) or they will troll/afk instantly.

That's why play ranked literally once a month.

The Deckowner1 votes

ranked get people tilted normals people dont get tilted as hard

LordBrasca1 votes

i would upvote this post 100 times if only i could

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Tryhards. 'Nuff said.

yc6751 votes

Then what is Riot doing about people getting underranked for dumb trolls that manipulate and hurt gamers experience? Does the report system even work ? There is no proof

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