We need AP champions with more diverse playstyles

Radiant Seraph··6 votes·657 views

(I don't know if this belongs in this board, but it will be seen more here anyway.)

Right now, AP-building champions are divided in Burst Mages (the majority of them), Battle Mages, Artillery, and Assassins. There's only a few exceptions: Ekko , who is an Skirmisher (arguably now more of an Assassin); Galio , a Warden, who builds very little AP; Diana , a Diver, who is usually played as an Assassin for how her kit works; Karma , an Enchanter; Mordekaiser , a Juggernaut; and Kayle and Azir , whose playstyles are regarded as unique. There's, however, a large amount of AD champions all over the place, in all classes (even Jayce , an AD champion, is classified as an Artillery Mage).

We need more AP champions outside of the classic Mage playstyles, if only for the sake of variety. I would love an AP-building Enchanter who is good in midlane but isn't inherently unhealthy like AP lulu was back in the day.

On the topic of variety, we also could use more Unique Playstile champions, those are always fun.

18 Comments

SwiftKitten883 votes

we also have Nidalee Elise AurelionSol

AlienPrimate2 votes

Singed Teemo

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Singed Teemo

Teemo is the incarnation of satan himself and Singed is basically the avatar of a giant mosquito that you keep swatting but it wont die...

i don't think those are good examples...

Ahris3 votes

Ahri used to be diverse until Riot gutted everything in her kit so that she can only work best in one play style.

Radiant Seraph1 votes

Ahri is a generalist, and generalists are cancer for the game

Ahris2 votes

If you think Ahri is unhealthy, then almost every apc in the game is very unhealthy

BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votes

You realize mid lane is the most diverse lane yet for some reason the current pool isn't good enough?

Radiant Seraph2 votes

I'm not even talking only about mid lane. I'm talking about AP champions outside of mid. They are just lacking.

Catastrop2 votes

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I would love an AP-building Enchanter who is good in midlane but isn't inherently unhealthy like AP lulu was back in the day.

So much this, I was hoping for Rakan to fill this niche somewhat but it just doesn't quite work. Sona is about the closest thing we have to this but even she just becomes another discount burst mage when you put her mid.

winteriscoming972 votes

Yeah, I do get bored of the whole use all your abilities at once stratagy

nyakasgoods1 votes

AP Varus has a pretty unique playstyle. in addition, we also have Karthus, whose main goal in teamfights is to run in and kill himself.

DJMason882 votes

Karthus' is just what a battlemage does.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

they have plenty of distinct playstyles. A enchanter that is good mage... you mean something like Orianna Morgana Karma? adding something for the sake of adding something isn't going to do anything or add anything of value

thecowley1 votes

I'd love an ap marksmen. Passive could add percent of ap to auto attacks. Abilities similar to Lucian or xayah, where your most effective at weaving your abilities into your autos.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

That is pretty much Corki.... 80% of his AA damage is dealt as magic damage and he is most effective by weaving abilities into autos, since Trinity is core on him.

The only difference is that he is mostly building AD items, while dealing magic damage (exceptions like that he is building Void Staff). I don't know if we need another marksman doing the exact same stuff just so we can say "but he builds AP items".

The Yetii Rider1 votes

AP-building Enchanter who is good in mid lane?

That's not going to happen. Enchanters are supposed to help an ally. They're going to be supports almost always.

Karma only stays mid because her playerbase is stubborn, it has nothing to do with her actual viability mid compared to support.

The closest you're going to get to an AP enchanter who might be viable mid is Rakan.

However, we do have an AP building Enchanter in the jungle that you didn't mention for some reason. Ivern

thecowley1 votes

why would you call rakan a good mid laner? Base damages are okay, but his scalings arent great and his best "waveclear" is a rush attack that was designed (I assume) with the idea that you can use e to dash back out of it.

Ill have to look at corki, thought he was mage not so aa base

Linna Excel1 votes

Do we have the itemization to support more AP playstyles? If not, what items would we need in the game?

Also, most tanks are AP champs but people vary rarely build AP on them except for grenade amumu.

I would love an AP-building Enchanter who is good in midlane but isn't inherently unhealthy like AP lulu was back in the day.

Part of me wants to say Soraka would work if she got a small change here or there.

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