How to jungle against ivern when your team has no map awareness?
So, as a jg main, I've been trying to do this for months. I've watched videos on how to do it, and i can only come to the conclusion: Ivern will beat you if your team is shit, and there's no way you, as the jg, can play around it. If they don't have the map awareness to collapse when he goes to invade he will steal your camps before you make it there. Even if you see him yourself and ping assist on your camps. Now, i can appreciate being there when the buffs come up, but what about first red/ first blue? And chickens? Either way, I'll be underleveled, underfarmed, and useless compared to him, and it won't be my fault.
At that point, is it acceptable to steal your laner's farm?