Aatrox Analysis, the power of CC

Darkinlegend··8 votes·2,150 views

Poppy is a classified as a tank:

At the highest levels her damage is this:

140 +80% of bonus AD plus 6% of targets max health 230 Magic Damage plus 70% AP 150 plus 50% bonus AD 400 plus 90% bonus AD

So total that is 920 damage, 70% bonus AP and 220% bonus AD.

Her CC is

40% Slow A knockdown 2 second stun A knockback

She also gets 12-24 percent increases on resistances and a shield that scales off of her max health

Aatrox who is classified as fighter gets

250 plus 60% bonus AD 200 plus 100% Bonus AD 215 plus 60% AP 400 Plus 100% AP

Total is 1065, 160% AP, 160% Bonus AD

His CC is 1 second stun 2.75 second 40% slow

So poppy, a tank, enjoys much better AD scaling than Aatrox, who does't even get to scale AD with his ult, while having half of the CC, and also not having nearly as much tankiness.

Here is the problem: Poppy's, or anyones CC shut down Aatrox's auto attacks. But his strengths with are attack speed in his passive and attack speed in his ult, don't shut down a champion that rely on abilities to do damage and CC.

Again, Poppy can CC AND do damage, AND at the same time making Aatrox NOT do damage. The reverse is not true. Aatrox's main strengths can't shut down her main strength.

This is why Aatrox is in a bad state. Everything he is is based on Auto attacks, which is easily shut down. By CC and items. And to make it worse, you have champions that literally get more of everything except his passive Which is awful because when you revive you have no bonus attack speed. Poppy gets more CC has more abilities that scale of AD, has more resistances and can use tankier items very well.

You can run this comparison against other champs or with other champs not including Aatrox.

The point is the same. CC is a better thing to have than other abilities. It lets the user do damage while stopping damage from coming in. The more you have of it, the more useful you are in more situations. Even if the opponent potentially can do more damage with abilities and auto attacks, it won't matter. Her damage, like any other tank with lots of CC, is not so far removed from other champions that its insignificant. She does plenty of damage.

Sure, in a vaccum, Aatrox can do well, if every enemy has blown their CC or he is 1v1ing someone who just used one of their CC abilities--but taken as a whole, he fails because of how easy it is for nearly any champion to shut him down.

And before you reply, save your time and don't comment on my builds I use for Aatrox. On my other account I have tried all the combo's for him that there are. I rush a frozen mallet nearly every game and climbed to Gold playing only Aatrox---win rate and everything doesn't change. Numbers are funny like that.

Some of you guys don't understand how to think about things: For every situation that a BOTRK or hydra would have been better, there is a situation where mallet is better---less expensive, better for locking down multiple champions, setting up good ganks for the jungler, surviving burst damage and being able to fight on and heal.

It a perfectly fine item to rush, and a lot of fun---like when Garen tries to dash away and you just beat him down as he slowly tries to get away. One reason Garen is so easy to beat is because he doesn't have a way to shut down auto attacks, except with items that slow it, which he will not have before you have killed him in lane a couple times and started to snowball.

65 Comments

Annoxis5 votes

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There is a little problem with your logic here. Aatrox is meant to be an auto-attack champ. Your mathematics didn't take that into account and are therefore not valable.

Darkinlegend2 votes

They are viable because hes not autoing when he is CCed, and is W is only every third hit, which means he has to be autoing to even get it off, which again, he wont as often, because of CC.

Annoxis1 votes

Poppy can nor use spells, neither throw her shield while CC'ed. Your argument is working both ways.

Amoc1 votes

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Poppy can nor use spells, neither throw her shield while CC'ed. Your argument is working both ways.

Not really. Aatrox literally has to walk straight up to his target and start autoing to do anything. Beyond his Dark Flight (Q), which gets blocked/cancelled by pretty much everything, he has no gap close. His entire kit, therefore, relies on him being able to safely walk into close range and start hitting people and there aren't many people even in Bronze League that want to let him do that. With poor base damage, little utility and high cooldowns, he's forced into an auto-based dps build and he doesn't have the tools to put that to good use.

Only Aatrox1 votes

how is aatrox gonna cc poppy? her w just makes him cc himself

Annoxis1 votes

Well, lots of champion have a dashand thus CC themselves against Poppy. I don't exactly see your point her.

Quepha1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Only Aatrox,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=0007000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-07T08:39:41.630+0000)

how is aatrox gonna cc poppy? her w just makes him cc himself

Is the OP's post about a single matchup or about the state of the champions in general?

hOrnn1 votes

This means little when u can have up to four luves with ga passive and a zilean on ur team pkys run cleanse, cleanse says ill get myself out of thus elo tier btw.

hOrnn1 votes

Aatrox needs no changes stop rushing garbage like bork and maxing e every matchup, play more like riven as when to chain cc, can beat most top laners including adcs with him ur runes prob bad too, if u cant w micro u wont succeed on aatrox, gg.

Spartan Sol5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-26T22:27:25.058+0000)

Aatrox needs no changes stop rushing garbage like bork and maxing e every matchup, play more like riven as when to chain cc, can beat most top laners including adcs with him ur runes prob bad too, if u can w micro u wont succeed on aatrox, gg.

Aatrox needs lots of changes.. theirs a reason he has like a 44% winrate..

hOrnn1 votes

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Aatrox needs lots of changes.. theirs a reason he has like a 44% winrate..

My winrate on him is like 63% zzzzzzz baah

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

having a good winrate with a champ does not make that champ OP. That would be like saying a 63% winrate Yorick = Yorick is a perfectly fine and playable champ right now.

Spartan Sol1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-26T22:35:52.792+0000)

My winrate on him is like 63% zzzzzzz baah

and mine is around 60% as well but we arent the majority of the population.. even people with over 50+ games only average at a 51% winrate thats not healthy even yorick has a 58% winrate to people who play him a lot ( normally sub 48% ) same thing with Azir who currently has the lowest winrate in the game. the issue is Aatrox has terrible base stats in all categories and needs a buff. Other champs who do the exact same things he does out shine him because they can build pure damage or pure tank and both work Examples yi xin shyvana shen ect. Aatrox has to build both tank and damage because he has extremely low heath armor and MR scaling as well as his entire kit relying on AA's which have several hard counters in the game already. You can say he has crazy good lifesteal and i agree but an 850 gold item ( my be off a little on the price ) makes Aatrox healing useless.. or ignite or any cc.

Fixes to Aatrox are pretty simple

  1. slight buffs to his base stats he shouldnt have 1k base hp at lvl 14.. or give him a sion hp bonus for units killed ( much less due to his easier clearing)
  2. invuln frame during his Q leap because its already hard enough to hit with short range and small knockup area. impossible if they have any kind of knockup or stun that is beyond easy to hit cus of how long the animation for it is.
  3. Possible passive rework or ult change. I'd prefer sion's old passive tbh
hOrnn1 votes

Any stat buff gets him nerfrd latet, he has a free ga keep well full attackspeed quints and micro w better, mist ppl lack the awareness of how to play him correctly, imo tanktroxx is just bad hes ment to dive caeries and with ie bt dancer and aatackspeed boots because 30%as for 1100gold when u can take cleanse is jyst rly strong, bet ur playing him wrong. First priority us bt rush with components of dabcer or bork vs true health stack bork very situational and weak atm not to be ryshed everygame phone kb. Sucks gl man...edit btw my current winrate is 65.1 but im in an elo lower then my ceiling.

Spartan Sol1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-03-29T07:20:00.097+0000)

Any stat buff gets him nerfrd latet, he has a free ga keep well full attackspeed quints and micro w better, mist ppl lack the awareness of how to play him correctly, imo tanktroxx is just bad hes ment to dive caeries and with ie bt dancer and aatackspeed boots because 30%as for 1100gold when u can take cleanse is jyst rly strong, bet ur playing him wrong. First priority us bt rush with components of dabcer or bork vs true health stack bork very situational and weak atm not to be ryshed everygame phone kb. Sucks gl man...edit btw my current winrate is 65.1 but im in an elo lower then my ceiling.

thats why reworking his passive would give him better room for stat buffs. and i believe the last time i played aatrox i built PD guinso BT Visage as my core 4 items. but in the current meta he has so many counters with knockbacks or any kind of cc. an invuln frame on his Q alone would prob work wonders.

Abyssphere1 votes

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Aatrox needs lots of changes.. theirs a reason he has like a 44% winrate..

Since when has Aatrox had a win rate anywhere close to 44%?

Spartan Sol1 votes

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Since when has Aatrox had a win rate anywhere close to 44%?

Aatrox currently has a 48% winrate but at one point during the strech from 6.2-6.5 he hit 44.9 % winrate for about 2 1/2 weeks

Abyssphere1 votes

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Aatrox currently has a 48% winrate but at one point during the strech from 6.2-6.5 he hit 44.9 % winrate for about 2 1/2 weeks

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/aatrox

His win rate has only briefly been below 48% in the last two years and he spent most of season 5 hovering around 50%. Don't know where you saw this brief 44% anomaly but he clearly isn't persistently anywhere around that sort of number, so there isn't a reason he has a 44% win rate. There's a reason he has a 48-51% win rate consistently.

hOrnn1 votes

Every season from 3 on i have targeted one so called bad champ and held good winrates, like pre rewirk viktor or fiora galio etc and i dont much but zzz picked prerework dar into kayle nids becuase i knew how to itemize and didnt greedmode ad quints zzz..

Solarus171 votes

League is very rank dependant, if your bronze your shit if you are gold and less your just slightly less shit, the game getc exponentially harder meaning all that stuff that worked in your shit elo doesn't work anymore when people know what their doing

hOrnn1 votes

Pleb

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

Slight mistake in your math there

Poppy's E is 260 + 1.0 bonus AD, as it's doubled when impacting a wall

Additionally, her passive adds 20-190 magic damage to her first auto

Just to increase the disparity a bit

hOrnn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-03-26T22:36:38.238+0000)

Slight mistake in your math there

Poppy's E is 260 + 1.0 bonus AD, as it's doubled when impacting a wall

Additionally, her passive adds 20-190 magic damage to her first auto

Just to increase the disparity a bit

And in a duel wirh a 40%slow and knockup u gotta be braindead to let her pick it backup, and dmg w procs i wont lose to any poppy 1v1 because i wont fight near a wall.

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-03-26T22:39:34.787+0000)

And in a duel wirh a 40%slow and knockup u gotta be braindead to let her pick it backup, and dmg w procs i wont lose to any poppy 1v1 because i wont fight near a wall.

Considering you'll never get your Q off as Aatrox if the Poppy is remotely competent, I'm pretty sure it's severely in her favour

hOrnn1 votes

Its not If u put point in w and keep on damage with 18% as from quints masteried, bloodwell full and never r in a teamfight until u csn hit 3 or more because read how it effects bloodwell derp poppy ez to right click down, and zone even if she ults u away. Most ppl suk on aatrox the right clicker because they dont skill and understand w or micro it at all, u lose all ur dmg that way...

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-26T22:52:05.733+0000)

Its not If u put point in w and keep on damage with 18% as from quints masteried, bloodwell full and never r in a teamfight until u csn hit 3 or more because read how it effects bloodwell derp poppy ez to right click down, and zone even if she ults u away. Most ppl suk on aatrox the right clicker because they dont skill and understand w or micro it at all, u lose all ur dmg that way...

You also rapidly kill yourself with the health cost

Aatrox doesn't kill tanks by burning them with damage, he out sustains their health and mana pools. Especially not ones like Poppy that can easily fit item 3075 into their build if the need arises to 1v1 you past 2 items

hOrnn1 votes

Dancer cleaver bt and ill beat rammus with that, ive done it, u onlt use heal at fifty percent unless sustaining vs poke derp..http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/31480865 b5god only play a few weekends month prib reach 70% winrate soon, currently 65% btw bork garbage unless its volu cho bt best dmg item on him shields n 22% ls, vamp togudd im also not scared to build the right last whusperer for the right situation, u do know those items exsist right? Also with any armor pen item deaths dance is solid vs thorn...

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-26T23:00:45.986+0000)

Dancer cleaver bt and ill beat rammus with that, ive done it, u onlt use heal at fifty percent unless sustaining vs poke derp..http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/31480865 b5god only play a few weekends month prib reach 70% winrate soon, currently 65% btw bork garbage unless its volu cho bt best dmg item on him shields n 22% ls, vamp togudd

Pretty sure I said Poppy, not Rammus. Rammus is a simple matchup because he doesn't actually stop you from autoattacking

That build is also extremely expensive for how little AS it gives. 9750g for 130 AD, 30% crit and 45% AS, banking on the passives and armor shred to carry the difference

item 3124 item 3153 is 6700g for 79 AD and 104% AS with 2 large sources of on hit damage. Against the average tank Bork is the same as 180-60 AD based on their current HP, and Rageblade boosts all your magic damage significantly so they can't just stack armor against you. Round that off with item 3072 and you'll actually be unduelable

hOrnn1 votes

I acctually dont take advice from a kid that spams darius at the paid fir diamond range and whined well over a year for a rework, thanks though

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-26T23:19:31.465+0000)

I acctually dont take advice from a kid that spams darius at the paid fir diamond range and whined well over a year for a rework, thanks though

When in doubt, claim someone significantly better than you is boosted

Oh, and I hit Master tier with Vlad last season, try to keep up

hOrnn1 votes

Never said u were boosted said liw diamond is, dc what ur video game accomplishments r i prefer thinking outside the box and overcoming inherint weaknesses like darius mobility or building attackspeed to abuse his op passive. Later dude..

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Diamond Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZbHysXy,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-26T23:24:39.559+0000)

Never said u were boosted said liw diamond is, dc what ur video game accomplishments r i prefer thinking outside the box and overcoming inherint weaknesses like darius mobility or building attackspeed to abuse his op passive. Later dude..

There's a difference between metabreaking and failing to understand a champion's limits

You can stack all the attackspeed and movespeed you want on Darius, if you plan on never teamfighting. Any competent team will immediately burst out a full damage Darius before he can stack on a single person. Couple that with his low base attack speed scaling poorly with items, and the antisynergy of his Q stopping all autoattacks for .75 seconds and you might understand why it doesn't work.

Even then, real splitpushing duelists like Jax MasterYi Tryndamere Zed will smash through you like nothing, likely killing you the moment you hit 5 stacks even with all your attack speed. The only way that build works is if you get to 1v1 a low damage tank, something Darius already excels at.

Instead, you take advantage of his massive base damage and build tanky, relying on your staying power from Decimate's sustain and the ability to instantly activate Noxian Might by last hitting a low health support or front liner. Your ability to build poorly in low bronze games and still succeed has no bearing on actual strategy, sorry.

hOrnn1 votes

K. We all kniw swiftness boots op right now, then we also kniw cleaver with no attackspeed on dar is bad, and q doesnt apply onhit effects right? Ok so i say.....phantom dancer cleaver veil boots of swiftness that health armor go fast item a guardians angel and mallet with storm riders and ghost flash or mb flash cleanse duels most champs in game....darius op dude always banned in bronze 😜 majority rules huehue

Amoc1 votes

I tried to play Aatrox when I got back to ranked at the start of this season. I think I played 20 games with him and had something like a 30% win rate...in Bronze. It was pretty apparent from playing him even only that much that his kit just isn't set up properly right now. Winning lanes was pretty easy most of the time but he's just junk in team fights. I don't think it can really be understated how unreliable his Dark Flight (Q) is. It's his only gap closer a gentle puff of wind blocks it. After that he's just a fragile AA champ with less damage, mobility and/or tankiness than his strictly better superiors (ie. Jax, Xin, Yi).

I'd bet money that he'll get a full kit rework sometime in the next year or so. His passive is clunky and junky and his ult just doesn't make much thematic sense the way he's set up. It's a shame because he's a cool looking champ with a cool concept. He just doesn't really work right now.

CppL1 votes

You forgot to mention that atrox has a knockup.

Darkinlegend1 votes

No I didnt. I listed a 1 second stun, which is from his knockup

Sire Hippington1 votes

there are quite some flaws in that comparison. For starters, poppys Q and E can both hit twice, so her damage is potentialy 290+130%ad higher than your value. You also forgot the 190 form her passive.

At the same time, you didn't take into accord any costs or cds, or AAdps. If just looking at ad-ratios, Aatrox seems like he has the worse scaleigs, but with passive and ult alone he nearly doubles poppies AS, and he scales well with AS. His Sustain also goes un noticed here.

If you just wanted to point out the obvious, AAtrox beeing in a bad spot right now and AA reliant melees haveing a hard time in higher elos cause of how easy it is to prevent them from AAing, when why bring in poppy? And if you want to point out that poppy is Op, i think thats common knowledge by now and she got quite some nerfs on PBE...but what has that to do with AAtrox? I honestly don't get the point of this comparison...

Darkinlegend1 votes

"but with passive and ult alone he nearly doubles poppies AS, and he scales well with AS"

Passive is contigent on bloodwell being full, which is empty once he blows his revive. His attack speed and passive sustain are easily shut down by CC, which is the main strength of many champions. But Aatrox main strenght is auto attacks, which do NOT shut down opposing champion strengths.

I think you missed the entire point of my post. Please read again.

Slave Knight1 votes

Hey man it's been awhile, good to see you still playing aatrox and getting to gold (congrats!). It seems that every time there's a popular Aatrox post, you are the pioneer of it huh? Soooo like I usually do, I'm here to pop in my two cents :p

On the topic of why Aatrox is bad or unconditioned for S6, I think it's safe to say he's not much on anyone's mind any more. He was born and bred for S3 battle but that era has long since dissipated. Back then, everything was much more binary I suppose? He could get away as being a strong melee fighter who was auto-attack reliant because there lacked champions who could deal with, or in the today's standards completely overshadow him in all aspects (besides being edgy, I still think he wins that contest lmao). With S6, Riot have really gotten their hands busy... there's so many things they need to get right and balanced right now that I don't believe Aatrox will ever receive a buff or any significant changes until they are actually focusing on his class category of 'dive fighters'. Like a lot of people are saying, he's still playable and with S6 itemisation there's a plethora of new builds to try out with him it's just that if anything, you should think of Aatrox as a champion template. He has the basics of a kit down and has a flexible enough kit to put him in different roles but.... just don't go expecting him to be the best at anything. That's still his core issue, he has no real identity and hence if Riot really want to fix him, he's gonna need some pretty bigish changes. Like you, I wish for him to get some of his power back already, I mean I don't think in S3 he was even that overbearing anyways. He still lost to the same lane bullies he loses to today. So if you're reading Riot... please give him some small buffs in the meantime! It doesn't have to be big, it could even be 3 AD LOL! Anything is really appreciate at this point.

Okay now onto my next topic... which is how you've been doing and advertising Aatrox - I'd just like to point out a few things after looking up both your match history and your youtube channel.

First of all, builds at the end of the day are all subjective and based on situation and also confidence/experience. While a frozen mallet may be cheaper at times and provides a nice amount of health, ad and slow passive - you should also remember what you sacrifice for going mallet as a first round buy. Any hydra will give you insane wave clear and burst while offering other utilities such as lifesteal or health. Bork is something I haven't bought in a long time but for those who enjoy it, it's mostly the same - attackspeed, lifesteal, on-hit and a bit of AD to give you a very core-feeling dueling item for Aatrox. Please don't advertise the mallet as the be all and end all of first buy laning item needs, because it's not. It's an effective item that has it's purpose but can always be replaced for something more optimal in a different scenario if said scenario were to arrive.

Secondly, whilst you got to Gold and have a lot of games and experience with Aatrox under your belt - please understand and recognise you are not a god or in this case, demon. The clips you post on youtube a few days ago still have some of the mistakes that I noticed from footage taken weeks ago. Let me split this into your Pro's and Con's: Pros:

1.For match ups, you seem to know and understand what you're doing and how you're opponent's champion operates 2.You've learnt to keep a calm, passive state of mind but can switch when you recognise kill potential 3.Your optimisation and use of W's has increase over the weeks 4.Your map awareness has been broadened with better time teleports 5.Your skillshots are landing more often now

Cons: 1.You still take harass from ranged opponents without giving them any reason to fear you, submissiveness against stronger opponents will cost you your lane. 2.Your control for your champion is still lacking, you still click once and let your champion do all the moving - allowing him to get harassed while on the move and not being able to retaliate or dodge. This also leads to your problem with chasing where you pretty much click on the person you want to chase and let him get away. (A nice tip is to learn to animation cancel your auto's and when you are on top of them for example after a successful q or e, you can attack and then move your cursor and click on which direction they are moving, then auto again and repeat). 3. You've become more arrogant/overconfident - if you don't treat every opponent you face with respect you will get pounded when you find an actually dedicated and tough opponent. From most of the footage you have, your opponents have left so many openings to abuse and have not respected your champion at all, giving you free kills and free advantages. On the other hand though, your obnoxiously low KDA (dude it's like at 1.8?) tells a different story and this may or may not be due to losing to a lane opponent from being overconfident.

TBH, I don't even know if I'm allowed to criticise how you play on the boards but it's whatever man, I'm just trying to help you out.

TL;DR: Aatrox probs not gonna get buffed anytime soon, it sucks I know but what can you do. S6 is a mess, too much crap changing at once. Frozen mallet is not the best item to buy all the time as a first buy item. Darkinlegend bro, you need to work on character control from what I can tell. WHY THE FK DO I ALWAYS END UP WRITING A HUGE BLOCK OF TEXT.

Darkinlegend1 votes

I often let them harass me because sometimes I don't want them to fear me, I want them to get over confident so that when I dive them out of nowhere with less health than them, and kill them, they never say it coming.

Darkinlegend1 votes

I also didn't feel like I was advertising a mallet as the end all be all of items to rush. The point I made was that overall, it really doesn't seem to affect my win rate--in fact.

Mallet lets you:

1)lock down enemies without boots or actives or passives like from cleaver 2)Help mitigate the squishness of Aatrox 3)Still provide a chunk of AD 4)VERY useful in team fights

I just find that in most situations it offers a margin of latitude for error and miscalucations on the damage an enemy might be doing to you. The AS and life steal from other 1st items...well, they don't count for much when you get CCed and bursted down and cant even auto attack.

Anyways, that's how I like to play him. Try it and see what you think!

Slave Knight1 votes

Will do my man, I'll see how it comes along :P! Good luck in your future games.

Darkinlegend1 votes

100 perecent beat down rate against darius with a mallet.

thumbnail91 votes

Yeah first world melee carry problems.

hOrnn1 votes

Ok with a ga 3lives over 100 mr armor

Solarus171 votes

Hello darkinlegend, I am Solaris 17. I have the second most champion points on aatrox in anyone in na, last season I finished diamond 4 only playing aatrox and rated the 7th best aatrox in na, according to lolskill. I have over 3k on this champ and understand him very well.

Aatrox is a snowball champ feed or famine. He can work well ONLY if you snowball. In low eloquent Plat 5 and below this is easy the higher your climb it gets harder and harder. S6 destroyed aatrox in high elo he is no longer able to snowball due to the mastery changes for tanks which give tanks sustainot and the new corrupting potion, that in addition to tp makes it really difficult for you to do well with aatrox, he is currently high risk low reward.

He is currently in a bad state and losses to most too lane match ups except gp wukong, and Yasuo.

He badly needs a buff. Either his health coat with makes it detrimental to build tank, his early game dmg, or his q. But he needs something. Right now he gets outclassed by almost ev every top laner. I still love the champ but am sad at the state that he's in

Darkinlegend1 votes

Feed or famine. That is exactly right. I either do great or awful, with very few games where I just do OKAY.

Solarus171 votes

There are different classes of champagne in top laner that are all better than him. The first is the ranged carritys that shut him down, quin and Graves, next are the light fighters that do more dmg than him and can all in him better fiora tryndamere, and riven, there is the off tanks which can bully him and out scale while havino more cc and are tankier, darius, trundle, Reventon , poppy finally the super tanks which aatrox beats in lane but is not ablend to snowball off anymore due to s6 mastery changes, and they become unkillable and greatly better for the team, malphite, nausus, garen, mundo, rammus,

Most not on the list aatrox can do ok against but they are not commonly picked top.

Jungle wise devourer is nerfed if he doesn't get it he gets destroyed and he gets outclassed by late game monsters like jax, master yi and shivanna

Solarus171 votes

RIOT PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS AND RESPOND BECAUSE I HAVE DEDICATED A LOT OF HOURS TO YOUR GAME AND TO THIS CHAMP THAT I LOVE AND YOU HAVE NOT DONE A AATROX JUSTICE, I AM ENRAGED AT MORRELLOW THINKING SUSTAIN CHAMP ARE TOXIC, WHILE HE LET'S CHAMP THAT CAN ASSASSINATE OTHERS, LIKE ZED AND CHAMP THAT ARE UNKILLABLE WHILE HAVING DMG MALPHITE AND CHAMP THAT CAN KILL A WHOLE TEAM LIKE MASTER YI. HOW ARE THOSE NOT TOXIC!!!!!!!!

Only Aatrox1 votes

maybe his blood price could at least ignore a % of armour similar to gangplank's parley. that way he could at least built a bit more tanky without getting punished for it

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