Rengar top is disgusting and op

FireDrizzle··36 votes·14,146 views

The bush range is just too far, before you used too be able too stand away from the bushes. But now if you don't play something that can all in him you cannot lane vs him because you cant take a single minion without him all inning you. That can be the case vs say Darius, but atleast he is opening himself up too a gank if he pressures and you can know his E range. He is 53% which kind of proves my point.

I did just play vs Rengar yes, but I actually won lane, i was just in disbelief again about his jump range. The sadlife guys that study someones match history for the past 50 games because they read their post can back me up i think.

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Frog goes moo12 votes

The only way to beat rengar top is to not play the game at all or play renekton and darius.

Alzon1 votes

Jarvan does pretty well into him, and I’d think Pantheon and Riven would also have an easy time of it.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Not entirely sure if its supposed to happen but last few times i saw that matchup Riven got absolutely wrecked.

Alzon6 votes

The Riven player would need good ping and frame rate.

WAZZZUP5001 votes

El mordekaiser, rush a bramble or an armgaurd, ez lane.

Princess Bunhead2 votes

I also like Garen into Rengar top - Negate burst with W, do the heavy boop, follow with the spin of win... Justice! (Remember to scream justice irl too)

Though, faced it as Urgot once, expected him to jump me, so I started W. He just fucked right through everything at lvl 1 (with ignite though) - did NOT expect that heavy burst at level 1... :| He must have gotten that ferocity stacked... But still.

Daddy Ants12 votes

Rengar top is an anti interaction pick for the person laning against him.

He's like Heimerdinger in the sense that you can't interact with him or play the game.

Malfectious15 votes

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Rengar top is an anti interaction pick for the person laning against him.

He's like Heimerdinger in the sense that you can't interact with him or play the game.

Actually...playing Heimerdinger into Rengar top lane should make Rengar turn off his pc and consider most of his previous life choices

DarkTree114 votes

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Actually...playing Heimerdinger into Rengar top lane should make Rengar turn off his pc and consider most of his previous life choices

heimerdinger top is also an abomination which should not be considered in any way shape or form, much like kennen or gnar

Düff McWhalen2 votes

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heimerdinger top is also an abomination which should not be considered in any way shape or form, much like kennen or gnar

Kayle > Kennen

DarkTree11 votes

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Kayle > Kennen

does this mean kayle beats kennen in lane or that kayle top is more annoying than kennen because if the latter you are absoloutely correct but kayle's playrate is negative so we get to ignore her as a community, and live harmoniously as a society, forgetting that kayle is a champion

IainG104 votes

NOT FOR LONG

Laughs in VGU

SithesisLord1 votes

Kayle top.

More annoying than Kennen.

Yeeeeeeeeeah, no, she's objectively not. If you engage on her pre-6, she just explodes. Unlike Kennen, who´ll stun you, auto win the trade because of that stun, run away, then proceed to poke you, stun you again, then engage on and kill you.

Lemonfaace1 votes

I still wish Gnar wasn’t nerfed into oblivion. Maybe they could’ve changed something in his kit, but now he’s just so weak and can’t really win a game like a carry (even with offensive builds). My boyo too weak

Malfectious1 votes

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heimerdinger top is also an abomination which should not be considered in any way shape or form, much like kennen or gnar

Not entirely inaccurate

Anime Fizz1 votes

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Actually...playing Heimerdinger into Rengar top lane should make Rengar turn off his pc and consider most of his previous life choices

So just like heimer into anything top?

Malfectious1 votes

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So just like heimer into anything top?

Yup

GelsominoKiller1 votes

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Rengar top is an anti interaction pick for the person laning against him.

He's like Heimerdinger in the sense that you can't interact with him or play the game.

Exactly this. Rengar top can be extremely oppressive vs some matchups. On the other hand Rengar top is shut down hard by quite a variety of picks (heimer is more problematic in that regard because he has almost no losing lane no matter the opponent). Moreover, bruiser Rengar top is often outscaled if now fed.

Plus, a lot of people don't play around the supposed counterplay of his W. Rengar's grey health lasts 1.5 if I remember correctly. I see a lot of people just dishing out all their burst in a short rotation and then complain that "Rengar negated all my damage!!". Rengar's W is an anti-burst tool, ofc he does that. Holding on to your own spells as long as possible is very useful against bruiser Rengar. Extended trades really fuck him up

PS: I'm not denying that toplane Rengar may be too strong currently.

Nevrankroaton8 votes

It isn't that rengar top feel top tiers to me, it is just that it feel so dumb I can't even start to comprehend what is happening.

"AHAH I JUMP" "AHAH I JUMP" "AHAH I JUMP"

And you like.... Is it good from him? Bad? Is it a valuable strategy? Should you trade or wait a little? Should I camp the bush to show him that it is MY bush? Do rengar player have epilepsie attack?

And then, before your brain start to connect with the inner spirit of the rengar mains who swear they don't molest childen, you are kinda low hp and now you must be zoned while he zoomed like a moron.

Like...

It is so weird, I truly get dumb facing one, it is like so weird.

Moody P6 votes

Pick Volibear and fuck him up

ZaFishbone4 votes

I mean, so what? Top lane is filled with either extremely powerful lane bullies (Darius and Pantheon ) , extremely powerful late gamers ( Nasus and DrMundo ), or champs who, if played correctly, can be good in both parts of the game ( Yasuo and Riven ). And of course, the super cheesy ranged picks (Vayne , Teemo and Quinn ). Rengar's cheesines feels right at home in the lane of memes.

HateDaddy3 votes

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I mean, so what? Top lane is filled with either extremely powerful lane bullies (Darius and Pantheon ) , extremely powerful late gamers ( Nasus and DrMundo ), or champs who, if played correctly, can be good in both parts of the game ( Yasuo and Riven ). And of course, the super cheesy ranged picks (Vayne , Teemo and Quinn ). Rengar's cheesines feels right at home in the lane of memes.

Ok nobody is complaining that it can be played, they’re complaining about how it’s played and the options you’re left with when you have to play against it. All of these champions have had issues in the past balance-wise, so rengar is no different. And playing against him on anything that isn’t a supreme early game lane bully like Olaf, Aatrox (who I’ve seen rengar destroy countless times so I’m not convinced this is a good match-up for Aatrox) or Darius, you’re left with hugging turret and not being able to advance past that point. Then you can finally farm at 6 when he roams with ult and kills your mid laner.

The champion is just fucking lame dude and I don’t care how many people main him/enjoy him, there has never been a point since his release where Rengar was a reasonable champion. He has been one of the worst things to ever happen to this game and he highlights some of the games most glaring problems: no counterplay, practically no resources in exchange for “resource management stacks” that are easy to obtain; his weaknesses are too easy to overcome with overloaded escape hatches built into his kit so even if he fucks up, he can get out easily. And even if he doesn’t get out, he’s scouted an entire team, blown an ADCs flash, probably other summoner spells too and his mere existence has taken away your capacity to capitalize on his mistakes because you know as soon as he respawn, you have to do this all over again, regardless of what advantages you’ve acquired. His counterplay is limited at best and nothing about him is or has ever been reasonable but because he gets circlejerked to death on reddit and he looks cool in competitive play, Riot won’t just delete this entire mess of a concept.

DoktorKaiser4 votes

I have been saying this for, let's see, 6 years yeah. Fuck Rengar top, that is imo by far the pick with least counterplay in the entire game, regardless of the meta.

SociaI Justice3 votes

rengar top is health for the game because its the counter to the fucking aids called ranged tops, is it a little strong? yeah. is it a necessary evil? yes.

Seenan3 votes

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rengar top is health for the game because its the counter to the fucking aids called ranged tops, is it a little strong? yeah. is it a necessary evil? yes.

Ranged tops? You mean the few that die near instantly if they think they can fight him unless you're Vayne or something?

SociaI Justice2 votes

not like cass top is s tier or anything.

Ionian Vulpix3 votes

I feel like the lane bushes are kind of unhealthy now, especially with how limited vision is.

Tuition Fee11 votes

Support: drops ward Rengar: haha lol item 3147 nice try bucko

IainG103 votes

Along with any ward he runs into for the next 8s, which could for example be most of one side of one team's jungle.....

Tuition Fee3 votes

+youmuu's passive+mobis+cloud drake= unhealthy ward clearing time

Düff McWhalen2 votes

Rengar bot on the other hand... I've seen him stomp everytime he's adc. I've never once seen Rengar bot lose. Farm from the bush, make enemy waste wards, freeze lane towards a non warded bush, set up enemy for constant easy ganks.

Monstermushmush2 votes

I've played rengar top like 10 times in my lifetime. It's very oppresive.

MorgManBasher2 votes

"OP" is pushing it, annoying as Hell and extremely snowbally? Yes.

feintfiend2 votes

Rengar takes a fat shit on ranged tops so I'm fine with it lol Seriously, fuck ranged top laners

DoktorKaiser2 votes

I would rather lane against Teemo, Kennen or Gnar than against Rengar, Fiora or Riven. Except for Vayne, fuck Vayne and fuck Vayne players who take her top, they will burn in hell.

bluefire mark 21 votes

It's simple: lose lane if they're a good rengar and if they're bad maybe win lane, but after lane win late because lane rengo falls off vs other top lanes usually.

Frontline Fury1 votes

Play a champion that enjoys farming under turret or play an all-in champion that likes killing stuff at level 2. Rengar has long cooldowns on everything but his Q and no sustain. If he can’t use bushes, he’s just a right click champion with ridiculously long cooldowns.

N3mO061 votes

You cannot lane vs a champ that has zero kill pressure out of brush or when you are under tower? You don’t know the match Up? Regnar is the only champ that let you atleast safaly farm under tower, something rare these days.

Opistach1 votes

If you are playing a champion that can shove the lane to his turret when he roams or leaves for base. It gives him a huge disadvantage, without the initial bush jump he cannot combo you. That is the main way to play against it, locked down the bushes.

Murtazah1 votes

BUILD TABI

Rengar Tarantino1 votes

When rengar leaves bush, theres like .1 sec window of him still being able to jump. combine this with the movement speed u'd get by casting an empowered abiliy, its not overpowered. theres plenty of counter play against rengar. its either ur too lazy or too stupid

FireDrizzle4 votes

Name checks out.

WAZZZUP5003 votes

See, if you left that last sentence out there wouldn't be a problem.

SiG DxD1 votes

ok QQ today , go to sleep and post tomorrow that rengar is disgusting in jungle too

thanks

macspam1 votes

Today i played malzahar into rengar. Just froze wave for the first few backs before pushing the living shit out of the wave, he had to decide between waveclear and jumping at me on the bushes.

Most champs cant afk waveclear like malzahar so its a but of a unique case though

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