What A Surpise (Not)

U4fyn2vZzW·Jan 22, 2015·39 votes·3,995 views

Season 5 has begun . . . guess who hasn't even been scratched .

Honestly i would call Riot's balance team a circus, but they're so incompetent I'm skeptical if they even can differentiate up from down.

http://i.imgur.com/tyHty4I.jpg?1

45 Comments

WzqdQsZwQAJan 22, 201524 votes

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Leti the YetiJan 22, 201515 votes

Q needs to be a skillshot AoE Nuke execute R needs to be a global ult.. enemies struck are sent back 19000 units all units in collision take full damage

seems like adequate buffs to me

U4fyn2vZzWJan 22, 201511 votes

His passive needs to grant him maximum attack speed too.

INTER5TELLARJan 22, 20155 votes

Why stop at maximum? His passive should give him 100 attack speed rather than 2.5!

junglerboy16Jan 22, 20154 votes

they don't have the technology.

IRL, you can't see Lee sin because he is hitting you so fast.

KeevalroyJan 22, 20153 votes

Great idea, give him perma stealth.

Bouffon dAnglaisJan 23, 20155 votes

LeeSin If I can't see you, you won't see me!

EdbwnJan 23, 20151 votes

The shield on his W acts as a Kayle ultimate and the Lifesteal portion of it acts as Sion's passive. That's not going overboard is it?

St0rmlnJan 23, 20151 votes

New Passive: If a lee sin is on your team you win the game... If there are 2 lee sins everyone just gets to watch a 1v1.

MatezoideJan 22, 20158 votes

Also turn his E into a permanent slow debuff.

Yulen XoshxiusJan 22, 20152 votes

Riot needs to get in here and add these buffs! It would be a SIN not to!

B1naryB0tJan 22, 20152 votes

Am I the only one who thinks it would be hilarious to see a champ being kicked from base to base down midlane?

BetaDude40Jan 22, 20155 votes

This just gave me the most amazing idea for a game mode ever.

Basically, have a 4v4 of Lee Sins and any champion you want (preferably Teemo. Just so we can call it Teemoball). evreyone gets to farm to acquire maximum cooldown reduction (would be even better with URF-like conditions). If you kick Teemo into the enemy team's fountain, you get a point.

Maybe using Lee Sin might make the cooldown a bit much for this. Alistar could work. Or maybe Vayne. Who knows?

EDIT: Please tell me someone didn't already have this idea. PLEASE

windwolf777Jan 23, 20151 votes

Enjoy this then. (Kick somewhat at 2:40. Sadly only from purple tier 2 to nexus but sorta the same idea)

RikariJan 22, 20151 votes

He needs increased range on all spells upon leveling,also true damage and spellvamp with a stacking stun. his shield should also get stronger upon killing minions as its useless now.

manbearswineJan 23, 20152 votes

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R needs to be a global ult.. enemies struck are sent back 19000 units

that's stupid,his R is a hard to use ability and requires a lot of positioning,the least it should do is kick the guy back to lee's fountain,and drag every enemy he passes through to the fountain as well.

I mean come on,the guy only has 46% winrate now

TheKingDodoJan 23, 20151 votes

His Q also needs to deal % max health true damage E needs to blind, and silence.

DynamiteGazelleJan 23, 20151 votes

His second Q needs to be a blink. A silence might be fair, too.

AlorasenceJan 22, 20152 votes

What if he starts getting played competetivley? What if he gets so strong he forces other junglers out? You got to be careful with buffs.

Wait...

xl Kirito lxJan 23, 20151 votes

If Lee sin kicks someone into the edge of the map, they go flying off the map and are unable to play for the rest of the game. He might need more, but this is definitely a start.

Juggernaut JesusJan 22, 201519 votes

No worries, they're fixing it by nerfing Sona.

L7xLoTekJan 22, 20157 votes

Oh, ok, that seems reasonable.

xNitoriJan 22, 20159 votes

Oh, Lee Sin is dominating the jungle? Yeah, let's gut mana regen, mana items and assassins - basically, let's gut mid-lane.

#BetterNerfAssassins

DrogmyreJan 22, 201510 votes

This couldn't be more true.

This season has seen some absolutely MASSIVE changes to the jungle. It's gone from an 'anyone can jungle' environment to a Dark Souls-esque murder machine, which rendered many champions that were absolutely viable in previous seasons' jungles unplayable due to the jungle taking roids.

And still, even after the jungle mobs took their Venom doses, Lee Sin is still top tier.

This tells me that no matter what, short of explicitly fucking over Lee Sin in particular or outright removing him from the game, Lee will always be a top tier jungler with his current kit and numbers.

That, right there, is absolutely the DEFINITION of broken. Lee is so damn good that he's never bad. He's so damn good that the question goes from 'who can I jungle with' to 'what junglers can compete with Lee Sin?'

And that's not OK. That isn't balanced.

Unfortunately Riot is blind to this fact, that one champion being permanently viable no matter what is utterly imba as fuck.

Silents429Jan 22, 20151 votes

Who isn't viable anymore exactly? The only champion that couldn't even hit 3 was Nautilus, who can now clear without problems now. Everyone that worked last season works now.

Rinky DinkyJan 23, 20152 votes

Why would you take any champion in this game besides Lee Sin?

He does everything in this game better than any other Jungler could ever hope to do.

Jarvan is only popular because he can COMPETE with Lee. Barely.

Silents429Jan 24, 20151 votes

Because not all of us play whats OP and enjoy the champions themselves, Lee has a bloated kit but I want to see his ass keep someone locked down for several seconds like Mao Kai. He can't.

Rinky DinkyJan 24, 20151 votes

That is not a valid reason for a champion being blatantly OP.

You had the option of playing a champion other than Release Xin Zhao, but guess what, people play whats gonna net them wins in the easiest way,

Lee Sin has broken numbers, and a broken amount of things on his kit.

A shield that gives lifesteal AND spellvamp, tied to a dash? An extremely damaging execute tied to a long range gapcloser? A strong AOE shred that debuffs all nearby enemies? A displacement cc that can knock up an entire team, while also being one of the most damaging nukes in the game?

Do you not see the problem.

Whats funny is he used to have EVEN MORE

Silents429Jan 25, 20151 votes

Not sure who that was directed at.

JoushiJan 22, 20157 votes

I thought this was really clever at first because I read it originally as "differentiate up from clown"

U4fyn2vZzWJan 22, 20151 votes

Wow . . . i'm goofy.

MatezoideJan 22, 20155 votes

B-b-b-b-but muh win-rate

muh skillcap

muh late game

Yulen XoshxiusJan 22, 20155 votes

I like the Derpy Sins. They think they're all that but they aren't. The only scary ones are the Major Sins. Unfotunately many Derpy Sins evolve to Lee Sins rather quickly, but they evolve to Major Sins way later.

I think I should stop posting for tonight.

slaya45Jan 22, 20155 votes

The ironic thing about lee sin is how much vision he actually gives his team. Between his sightstone and the support's you don't really even need the vision totems.

EmbertineJan 22, 20155 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&v=CXxcpaCr1hw&x-yt-cl=84359240&feature=player_detailpage

Infiny MageJan 23, 20151 votes

Lmao priceless

UnedibleJan 22, 20155 votes

-Sigh-

JunkοJan 22, 20153 votes

The reason Lee Sin can't see you... is because he kills you before he has a chance to see

A Superb VillainJan 22, 20153 votes

item 3144 item 3142 item 3184 item 3074 LeeSin item 3077 item 3087 item 3086 item 3115

Lee Sin needs to go away. Forever.

Sythriel DrakenJan 23, 20152 votes

A big nerf to him would be to not allow ward jumping.. hell, ward jumping needs to be completely.

SookoJan 22, 20151 votes

His W needs to be casted on turrets, and he should make enemy turrets his own if an enemy champion hits them with his R.

AlorasenceJan 22, 20151 votes

I LOVE RIOT SOOO MUCH!

They have made literally nothing but positive decisions since Season 1, and continue to be the most successful and intelligent game design company on Earth. They make no errors, always take their players' advice, and are competent and understanding; concerning all of the most complex details of balance and champion design, Riot has no equal.

GOD BLESS THEM.

(In their kaleidoscopic world view, this will come across as a well strucutred criticism.)

Edit: This was satire. I think you all didn't read it an reflexivley downvoted...

SecretAgentHulkJan 23, 20151 votes

I have no opinions about Lee Sin, since Bronzies like myself can't play him competently, but I would just like to point out the irony of calling Riot's balance team incompetent while misspelling surprise in the title. (Yes, I know you can't edit titles and it was a mistake OP can't fix. It's still funny.)