Literally right now you take red buff into any lane and it's a free kill, the slow is so broken on it. Junglers are keeping up way to well in cs even if they gank none stop. I don't see the point of this aside from breaking the gank again....
Ben Sharpio16 votesNot OUR fault that riot increased jungle camp respawn timers. We have nothing to do but gank you nonstop LOL
Divewing2 votesIt's fine, we can ward to see you guys comi-
oh wait...
buPPDrmXEO11 votesRed smite is so god damn annoying and broken it should never have existed.
"I'll come out of the jungle and press this button to win a 1v1 duel against you no matter what".
Junglers should NEVER be as strong as solo laners (unless ridiculously fed) because jungle as a role bears very little risk.
You don't have to contest for farm, you don't have to expose yourself to being ganked etc etc. So why are they able to acquire same gold as solo laners and exp while also ganking and being present everywhere? Blows my mind.
wildfox9910 votesRed smite is so god damn annoying and broken it should never have existed.
"I'll come out of the jungle and press this button to win a 1v1 duel against you no matter what".
Junglers should NEVER be as strong as solo laners (unless ridiculously fed) because jungle as a role bears very little risk. You don't have to contest for farm, you don't have to expose yourself to being ganked etc etc.
this made me want to downvote
So why are they able to acquire same gold as solo laners and exp while also ganking and being present everywhere? Blows my mind.
but this made the contrary
if i roam as laner i get behind as xp and gold,but if a jungler babysitt a lane he wont be punished (not as hard as the laner that is getting ganked over and over)
GayFluffyUnicorn7 votesSad how the truth gets downvoted. But jungle and supps have always had whiteknights, they were always the poor guys. But you are right. You barely need matchup knowledge, you cant really get countered, mechanics don't really matter it's a very forgiving role. Now jungler have more XP than solo laners. Same gold and get this fuckin broken red smite. I hate it so much and i wonder why people downvote you. Red smite is not fun, it's against EVERYTHING riot allegedly stands for: No counterplay, it's invisible power and HUGE on top of it and it wins you every 1v1 by the press of a button.One of the most unhealthy designs in the entire game. Ofc red smite is frequently build on shit like kha, xin etc. you barely be able to 1v1 anyways.
Iffy Jarl1 votesRed smite is so god damn annoying and broken it should never have existed.
"I'll come out of the jungle and press this button to win a 1v1 duel against you no matter what".
Junglers should NEVER be as strong as solo laners (unless ridiculously fed) because jungle as a role bears very little risk.
You don't have to contest for farm, you don't have to expose yourself to being ganked etc etc. So why are they able to acquire same gold as solo laners and exp while also ganking and being present everywhere? Blows my mind.
Because the jungle role generally bears the most risk early, there are many champs who if you kill them early and snake a blue from them they are basically useless
Rexxiee2 votesRed smite is so god damn annoying and broken it should never have existed.
"I'll come out of the jungle and press this button to win a 1v1 duel against you no matter what".
Junglers should NEVER be as strong as solo laners (unless ridiculously fed) because jungle as a role bears very little risk.
You don't have to contest for farm, you don't have to expose yourself to being ganked etc etc. So why are they able to acquire same gold as solo laners and exp while also ganking and being present everywhere? Blows my mind.
which is how it used to be in season 2~3, too bad they had to ruin it.
Now you have the joke that is lvl 3 junglers with double buffs at full health while you just hit lvl 2 in a fucking solo lane.
Pika Fox11 votesJunglers arent being buffed, theyre making it so more champs can effectively jungle.
Salson5 votesRemoving the slow would be a great idea.
Basically lowers the influence Junglers have on lanes without nerfing them directly in their own environment.
Nerfing Marksman in late game would also be an added benefit.
Ahri Baka1 votesBecause it's the role where you get reported for both ganking and never ganking
Shablagoo1 votes
Remember when Riot added the ability to ward because they give you free ones and the fact that even better wards are 75 gold now. Let me just say this if you are consistently getting camped by the jungle and your other jungle isnt taking advatange and ganking other lanes, then I am sorry but you just got unlucky and got a jungle that doesnt know how to play.
Ratpie1 votesThere are only a few reliable junglers at this point. Jungle is a nightmare to play on 90% of the champs. Most champs all you have to do is send in mid or bot once or twice early to invade jungle and the jungler is out, especially in low elo where nobody rotates or helps. There are a few junglers that need to be toned down, but I think it is more the champ type, as those particular champ types are really strong over all.
Jungling is the most thankless and flamed roll in the game.
*pushes lane all the way to enemy tower with no wards, gets ganked, flames JG *pings for assistance while jungler is on the other side of the map, gets killed, flames JG *Jungler gets invaded by whole team while other lanes don't even ping mias's or rotate to help, flames JG
I could go on.....I think the biggest problem, is most people in the game other than the top levels, do not know enough about junglers or how to play with them in the game. There are some amazing vids on freezing lane and warding that make most JG champs obsolete.
THE D1C1 votesJunglers are keeping up way to well in cs even if they gank none stop.
You do know that
Wolves (3cs) counted as 4 Gromp (1cs) counted as 4 Blue Buff (1cs) counted as 4 Red Buff (1cs) counted as 4
Right?
Sire Hippington1 votesyou know that the point of CS is gold, and that one camp, no matter which one, roughly gives as much gold as 4 minions, right?
THE D1C1 votesThen maybe OP should rephrase “jungler keeps up in CS” to “jungler keeps up in gold”
T4underbolt1 votesCatch up XP. They made sure that guy who duo boosts another person is not losing too much early when camping his premade lane.
