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SO...About the New Support Item "Redemption"

Shirvallah··1 votes·1,833 views

It's absolutely amazing — the active that is. The passives are fine, too, except...no AP. Maybe it's a personal preference, but I like to build a little more aggressive items on my mage healers/shielders (i.e. Sona, Nami, Lulu, Karma, etc.), like Frost Queen's Claim, Eye of the Watchers, Ardent Censer, Athene's Unholy Grail, Banner of Command (pre-rework), etc. My question to Riot is why did you guys choose to leave out the AP?

Aegis of the Legion was removed. Forbidden Idol was nerfed from 10% to 8% heal/shield power. Assassins just got a rework (cough buff cough i.e. more damage cough). Banner of Command's AP was removed. I just kinda feel like there should be some compensation for all of that in this item. I, personally, wouldn't mind the 400 Health being removed to keep the item balanced and having only 25 AP (or something along those lines) added.

Or am I completely missing the point in Redemption? Is this an item aimed toward tanks, and I'm just not seeing it?

9 Comments

BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votes

Cause it'll be abused by mid laners. Just like FQC.

Shirvallah3 votes

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Cause it'll be abused by mid laners. Just like FQC.

I mean, I can see that, but do you think a mid-laner would take it if they only gave the item, say, 25 AP?

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

Yeah maybe I think 15 - 20 would've been an ideal amount imo. Anything above that would probably most likely be abused.

Baby sitting ADC1 votes

I agree that's the one thing I dont like about the new item, its nice but either you weigh it up for more HP or 15-20 AP. Because realistically yes 400+ is good for squishy supports, but that doesn't replace the fact that the old shield of Aegis HP benefits and Locket benefits (which made them have more HP and less likely to one shot).

My Sea Cow2 votes

I wouldn't say it's aimed towards tanks but it's definitely good on a lot of supports...heck...I may build it on all supports I play. That heal could change the outcome of a fight ....that's huge and will be super OP IMO.

Shirvallah1 votes

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I wouldn't say it's aimed towards tanks but it's definitely good on a lot of supports...heck...I may build it on all supports I play. That heal could change the outcome of a fight ....that's huge and will be super OP IMO.

Yeah, it already has for me. I even managed to snipe a kill a bajillion miles away with it, haha (my allies were too far away).

Sintorus1 votes

I think the worry is if it had ap on it the item would be too appealing to mid laners

Shirvallah1 votes

Like, I don't care if as little as 25 AP were to be added. I Just think it needs a little oomph.

Shirvallah1 votes

Just gonna bump this. I'd like to know Rito's intentions, as well as the community's feedback (especially support mains).

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