Love The Fact We Can Choose The Next Illaoi Skin, but...

Shirvallah··31 votes·1,561 views

Where’s Dunkmistress Illaoi? Just curious. The concept was highly requested by the community, and I would’ve thought that especially because of the fact we can choose her next skin, Dunkmistress would’ve been thrown into the lot.

Did the concept just not work no matter how many times y’all tried? Or did the team as a collective decide it just wasn’t a good idea? Or what?

I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s wondering.

25 Comments

zlumpy24 votes

Still waiting on whacky waving inflatable arm tubeman carsaleman illaoi.

Shirvallah3 votes

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Still waiting on whacky waving inflatable arm tubeman carsaleman illaoi.

That’d be hilarious for April Fools, though. xD

Rude Name5 votes

Keeping the name as well. Because “Guardians of the Sands Rammus” isn’t long enough. Imagine seeing that name on the loading screen.

Moonboy651 votes

*wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tubeman

Glory ln Death1 votes

*Wacky, Inflatable, Arm-Flailing Tube Man

Moonboy651 votes

where's the Waving?

SpecterVonBaren10 votes

I think Dunkmaster Illaoi is just a given that they're going to do at some point and they'd rather have us decide between skins that can actually compete with each other and also wouldn't involve all new voice lines.

North8888 votes

Given how business works, and I can't say if this is 100% true or not, but it seems to be the case from their previous decisions, but skins generally shouldn't be based on ideas the community uses. There've been numerous cases of fans taking those and trying to get compensation for the 'idea' that most big companies will avoid using anything close to what a fan has made without it being directly connected to something else in their library (like how Azir's necromancer skin FINALLY came out and was tied to Ryze Whitebeard, Caskgreaker Gragas, and Varus Swiftbolt). Additionally, Pool Party Illaoi would need to come out closer to when they release the Pool Party skins in the summer.

Unfortunately if you're getting annoyed at fan requests not getting into the game and them going with a different direction, it is partially due to legality. They want to avoid an incident similar to what happened to 'JuJu' in Skullgirls. For those that don't know its an incident where the team took the fan design for the character Juju who was only referenced in Parasoul's Super quoute where she said either "Take the shot Juju!" or "Number 13, take the shot!" This fan boasted about it and wanted compensation despite the NDA they setup for it and it caused a whole slew of issues before they just cut Juju's existence entirely.

There are MANY cases like this that have happened in the past. Complaining about them not using fan designs or even taking their own spin on things is because they CAN'T. Its a huge risk and it should be respectable that they may even attempt to release skins similar to fan ideas in the future. This isn't OG Riot who are a small group. They can't do stuff like French Maid Nidalee or Battle Bunny Riven anymore without a lot of risk and legal stuff.

Lastly, if Dunkmistress was one of the options do you really think anyone would vote for any of the other ideas? Let Riot flex its creative muscles. Most champs don't get a legendary skin as their second skin anyways, and we all know if Dunkmistress wasn't an 1820 people would get pissy about that :P

Lintu Puck5 votes

probably because it would negate the point of the voting, since everyone would vote for the dunk -.- thus not giving these skins a fair shake.

OblivionFall1 votes

^This.

There's no way they'd include such a highly requested skin in with a few random concepts. Especially considering a skin like that would need extra voice lines and everything that we might not get with these other concepts (Or will we? There's some potential with the Space themed one)

Who knows? Maybe Dunkmistress is already on the table at Riot and they're just waiting til later.

Tesla Effect5 votes

Unless its a pick between three legendary skins, I think Dunkmistress should be made only as a Legendary skin. If they arent picks for a Legendary, then Ill wait for the eventual Dunkmistress in her full deserved glory.

Sarutobi4 votes

In my opinion the fact that its been 2 years I would assume this next skin would be something like community created skins since we had to wait this long for it. Granted there were other champions who had to wait longer, its just proves they rather make skins for popular champions than actually make skins for champions equally. Dont get me wrong from a business standpoint ya, making skins for popular champions are a must. But its becoming a point where you have Champions like Ahri, Lee, Ryze, Annie, and the upcoming Blitz skins when you have make very detailed skins for them, but cant put that into champions who really need it like Illaoi.

Ive seen artwork from various artist who make things like DunkMaster skin, or PoolParty that i felt would have been something worth the wait. No offense but these 3 skins at least for the time being just dont feel worth the wait. And i feel the time spent could have been for skins like DunkMaster or PoolParty.

North8886 votes

The funny thing is if you look at who gets a lot of skins its lot less one-sided than it feels sometimes. For example, not counting Ashe, Sivir, or Kog cause of how long they've been out, you'd think the most popular ADC, Jinx, would have the most skins right? Nope. She has like 4. Jhin, a newer and also popular champ, has 3. Both are really popular. Additionally, none of the Battle Boss skins we got recently were for very popular champs. Brand and Malzahar are somewhere in the middle for popularity though Malzahar being very meta kinda boosts him past where he was when the skin was released. Only Ziggs is really that popular in the first place. There's Yasuo who still doesn't have many skins despite being hella popular and Lee Sin is an older champ and hadn't had a skin in a long ass time before he got God Fist.

Speaking of that, you mention Ryze, but Ryze isn't popular. He's more or less the original face of the game and is one of the originals. Of course he has a lot of skins, Riot was pushing him a lot back then. Plus he recently got a rework that updated all his super old skins. almost none of his skins looked that good prior to his rework so its not a fair statement to include him. I can't really defend Annie or Ahri though >_>

When was the skin Blitz got before these 2? Wasn't it Battle Boss? That one was awhile ago. I mean, if you had said Zed, Ahri, and Annie yeah you'd be right, but we recently got great skins for Shyvana, Gnar (another kinda sorta newer champ that's low on skins still), YORICK. It's a balancing act.

With how they do business now its best to release skins for less popular champs alongside skins for popular champs cause most people get the bundles, giving them a skin for a champ that may entice them to actually play and enjoy that new character.

Also basing your expectations on fanart is just asking to be disappointed. I posted another comment on the legality of it but another thing on that is that these are CONCEPTS. Riot only has a limited number of people working on skins at a time, so they can't be making new skins for everyone at the same time. Especially nowadays when they have so many yearly lines they keep up with its hard for them to focus down on singular skins that won't make anyone excited. That was the purpose of the vote. Besides, these options give them room to flex their creative muscles without people complaining that someone's fanart looked better than what they'd end up making >_>

SociopathFriend3 votes

I still think Dunkmaster Illaoi would be weird tentacle-wise. Most suggestions implied they should be hoops but... hoops just don't move like that.

Glory ln Death1 votes

They should be fanatic fans, who slam their faces into the ground whenever Illaoi dunks.

Yvaelle2 votes

The community had tons of good ideas for Illaoi skins, I'm pretty surprised not one of the top suggestions is even remotely represented/evolved in the choices.

Where is Pool Party Illaoi? Dunkmistress Illaoi? Program Illaoi? I would have voted for any of those over the 3 options presented.

Shirvallah1 votes

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The community had tons of good ideas for Illaoi skins, I'm pretty surprised not one of the top suggestions is even remotely represented/evolved in the choices. Where is Pool Party Illaoi? Dunkmistress Illaoi? Program Illaoi? I would have voted for any of those over the 3 options presented.

YES! Pool Party Illaoi would’ve been the perfect opportunity, too! Completely forgot to mention that! Don’t remember seeing Program Illaoi. Though, I’m sure the concept art was phenomenal.

GreenLore1 votes

I think they might be unsure if dunkmaster illaoi would be legendary or not and they won't give her a potentially legendary skin as her second one.

TiiGz1 votes

I was pretty surprised they didn't have Dunkmaster Illinoise either. She's definitely due for a skin and I also remember her void skin was considered a thematic failure so I understand why they would want to ask us the second time around, however I'm surprised they chose her out of all the champs because she doesn't have the biggest fan base. I'm glad I had the chance to vote and I think this is a great idea, but at the end of the day it wont make a different to me because I won't personally be buying the skin.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

All three of them are pretty good, I voted for Battlecast although I wouldn't be opposed for the space one, but Alien Queen Illaoi hinted at in Dreadnova GP would have been so dope. The Deep Space one doesn't quite fit in with that, and the Explorer Illaoi? I'm sure it would be cool but that doesn't exactly scream 'top three material out of tons of cool ideas already floated by the community'.

I woulda killed for a Blood Moon or Elderwood Illaoi but that's just me.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

and elderwood illaoi :3

NCBuckets1 votes

Phew! I just posted something similar to this and thought I was the only one. She literally dunks more than darius. A random chance of either a foam finger, a ref uniform, or a basketball hoop for the tentacles. Her obviously in basketbally jersey. Idol obviously basketball. It's too fitting. Also, a while back, a rioter more or less confirmed it by saying it was a matter of "when not if".

DaBaiXiong1 votes

Riot is simply a garbage company. Two years and these three garbage skins are what they came up with? And then couldn't even decided between them which was the least shitty?

Just another example in a long list of horseshit that they pull.

Riot is garbage.

Also, they really need to drop the "games" from their logo. I mean.. they don't even really own this one. Tencent League of Legends is infuriating anymore.

DwarvenGiant1 votes

I feel like they're saving that one for another time, rather than make it her first skin since release, because (I think) that they have bigger plans for it (Have it be Legendary for example).

ChuShoe1 votes

I just think they completely forgot

I'm sure we'll see it someday

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