Annie- why does fire stun?

Mister Modesty··2 votes·996 views

It has never made sense to me that Annie can proc a stun on her abilities. So I think her passive needs a rework. I don't think she should be nerfed- she's already too easy to kill. But- modifying her passive is reasonable. Fire doesn't stun- electricity does..

Here's a suggestion. Instead of stunning, her next ability should create fear for the duration. If Tibbers comes at me- I'm not standing still, I'm getting the hell outta there! Annie is a child, making her be able to hold down enemies with stuns is a bit much. She should be more like a child- less aggressive gameplay. This means her abilities should come to her rescue- if a threat is near, her powers protect her and ward the threat off- like a ghost..which is practical because a pyro kinetic child seems paranormal to me. Paranormal creates fear.

Thus, we should be afraid of Annie , Not stop and stare in awe.

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BlkStar1003 votes

I think watching a little girl with a backpack and a teddy bear schorching everything near her for the love of joy can be quite stunning

Mister Modesty1 votes

I don't like pedophiles commenting on my shit.

BlkStar1001 votes

I beg you forgiveness , I didn't mean to sound pedo at all , but as a champion I would find it weird to see a little girl in the rift .

Mew Goes AD2 votes

Okay, then in Winter map, it should charm you and cause you to walk toward her.

After all, it is freezing cold and she is warming you up, not to mention half of the champs have barely any clothing on.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Fear is the natural response to unexpected fire.

Kãtãrinã2 votes

Fear can make people freeze in place unable to move as well

Skia Asteri2 votes

Brand

Consistency.

Packun Flower2 votes

Annie would lose all purpose and identity without her stun, that's why they dont change it. It has been nerfed in the past though.

Without her stun, Support Annie would be completely deleted. Without her stun, Annie would lose to literally every mid laner because she has no escapes, especially for how squishy she is. Without her stun, Annie would be free kills for jungle ganks.

people dont like to fight Annie because her stun IS her identity, stun is a very hard thing to fight but honestly if you play and build smart against her Annie can easily be countered.

item 3102 and item 3140 in particular really messes her up. The spell shield on banshee's veil prevents her from iniating at all, especially if its on the enemy carry or main damage dealer, forcing her to play defensively until the shield is popped.

item 3222 for the support protects the carry and squishys in team fights.

and finally summoner 1 is an obvious Summoner spell choice. I really dont know why people dont take this against her. if you cleanse out of the tibbers stun when she hits 6 you can survive the burst and this you have the whole CD of Tibbers to harass her, by the time Tibbers comes of CD, cleanse is already back up and you can rinse and repeat the process.

Honestly to fight Annie, you have to stray away from the Meta cleanse is int a meta heavy summoner spell but it works well. PEople are so afraid of breaking the meta though that she's allowed to be powerful because midlanes won;t buy a Banshee's or take cleanse against her because "It's not the meta" and in the end they pay for it, their whole team does.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Fear is CC. It's the same defensive concept- it gives her a break. And I still see Volibear supports- you're talking about removing the stun- yet you're not considering the fear, which will suit her just as well. It's an illogical concept- fire that stuns.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

Being dazzled doesnt stun you it would blind you (tarics stun). Gold cards cant stun you yet Tfs card does? Stop trying to make logical things out of the game honestly. shes a strong mage she doesnt need a passive change

Mister Modesty1 votes

I can make the argument that the card is magic- an enchanted weapon. And "dazzle" refers to seeing stars after you've been stunned. Nice try.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

The flames are so storng the make you stand still like I'm sure if a fire burst out right in your face youd turn your head and cover your face. you aint moving are you cause your stunned from the force? LOL nice try kid

Mister Modesty1 votes

That's called an example bias. The people who stand their WANT to go through the fire because what lies on the other side. The fire is not coming to them- they are going to it. If I throw a Moltof Cocktail in your face I'm sure you're not just going to stand there and burn. Nice try.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

throwing an object at you is different LOL a buyrst of flames in your face will daze you for a second, just like annies get over it kid

Mister Modesty1 votes

That object I'm throwing is fire- or do you not know how Moltof Cocktails work? Furthermore, all of Annie's spells are "thrown" at you. You're acting out of desperation trying to fight for a cause you don't even believe in. You're a fucking Meletus bro.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

lol i like annie? shes one of my top 3 used champions. no need 2 change her when shes been this way sinc eleague started. Also tibbers isnt THROWN at you he appears on you only her Q is technically thrown at you ther w is an AOE cone so its instant fire in an area.. and regardless if it causes fear. Some fear makes you so scared you cant even move. lmao. i know how a cocktail works and its throwing a bottle that has a lit cloth.

Dr Poro1 votes

So if Sejuani's ult would poison the enemy, that wouldn't bother you at all?

Kãtãrinã1 votes

flames can daze people especially when it is thrown up in there face

Catastrop1 votes

Fire becomes so bright it's stunning.

Dr Poro1 votes

Why is this thread getting downvoted? It does make sense. What do you do when you burn yourself? You start jumping around in pain. You don't stay frozen.

A fear would actually be a really interesting change which could play in favor of Annie or their opponent depending on the situation (compared to a stun).

Fear will make it harder for Annie to combo her abilities on a group as the enemies won't stand idle after the first one. However, in laning phase you could use the fear to gain more distance, particularly useful against melee champions.

I think this will be a netto nerf to her, because chaining abilities becomes harder. But since the many complains about Annie (she does have the second highest winrate in midlane) and the fact that it's thematically more fitting, I find this atleast an interesting idea.

BTW how about Brand? He has a similar stun on a fire attack.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Because the people who play Annie lack any talent. And her being able to stun makes them feel like skilled players when she spams all of her abilities shortly after. Not saying there isn't skilled Annie players.. but you get the picture.

I didn't know Brand had the same mechanic, but he should be included too then. Thanks, I sometimes contemplate suicide knowing the world is run by lack-luster opinion. The future looks grim sometimes. But it's good to know there are people that can remove their bias before making a judgment.

Maybe if I had an attachment from imgur, it would get more appreciation- thus always the morons.

CEO of Aspergers1 votes

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Mister Modesty1 votes

I disagree- that would squash Annie. The problem is her stun. It gives her enough time to proc another stun before you can even move. Tibbers gets placed behind you for the stun. E, W, Q, E- charged. Now her next ability stuns. And it really is that simple given the cd of her shield.

Ser Garland1 votes

You're right. Nerf brand

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