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The new support items make every support feel like you're playing soraka

devdev463·12/20/2016, 2:48:41 PM·1 votes·420 views

Sorakas cool and all, I do like playing her occasionally just because of how damn obnoxious she is as a champion that can actually make support kind of fun sometimes, but god damn these support items are op.

Why make the items for support op? Why not just make their gold gen higher so they have the FREEDOM to build what ever they want? I know when the gold gen was strong other people were taking it but why not just rework them to only work in duo lanes? Bam you can make gold gen strong and no one but support (and MAYBE adc) will abuse it. Supports itemization was in an ok spot beforehand imo, they simply needed more gold. I know when targons first came out people didn't hardly jungle and just duo laned top with it but that was really only because jungle was so damn weak back then. With jungle as strong as it is currently I really don't think this strategy would rise up again if we buffed duo lane gold gen.

Another problem with such OP support items is that their build paths are more stale now than they've ever been. There's about as much choice in support as there is in adc itemization right now. If you want to support you go sightstone > boots > redemption > locket > then the other last 2 items are a little more negotiable, although on champ gg anyone with a shield in the support role always has ardent censor and knights vow as their last 2 items. Then you pair that with exhaust and wind speakers and it honestly just feels unfair, and I've played both sides of it, as the guy diving an adc with a support with this shit and as the support myself laughing my ass off at how ridiculously broken the shit was, as a zed tried over and over to kill my adc. Even the support tanks take the redemption locket combo, the only difference is they throw face of the mountain in there as well.

from: someone who plays nothing but divers, but also plays support quite a bit because they have to play at least 1/4th of their games as support. Shits broken yo.

4 Comments

ChaddyFantome12/20/2016, 2:50:31 PM3 votes

Funny. It doesn't FEEL like I'm doing 10% max HP true damage to myself whenever i Shield someone when I play Lulu . Guess I was just not paying attention.

Why make the items for support op? Why not just make their gold gen higher so they have the FREEDOM to build what ever they want?

Your ignorance is showing... You think people AND RIOT wouldn't have thought of that by now? when they slightly increased the gold flow in the support role even slightly back in S4, all it did was make i to where midlaners and other roles were taking over the support role while getting as much gold as they would or even more without even having to lane or kill monsters in the jungle.

Several were even nerf'd in response like Annie.

You can't just give people more money for free. It creates a shitty gold flow ecosystem like your on welfare but you get as much money as someone who actually has a good job.

whats worse is some lanes would even abuse them outside of the support lane entirely.

I know when the gold gen was strong other people were taking it but why not just rework them to only work in duo lanes?

How would that even work? Even if we pretend that Riot somehow could do that without linking them to a second champion and thus forcing them to syat to another champ at all times lest they fall short on gold, that is silly design. Riot doesn't want people to completely opt out of using said items. what they want is for it to not be as effective unless used in its intended applicable situation.

Riot doesn't care if midlaners use spellthief unless it becomes problematic. If they are gonna use it, it has to come at some kind of overall net cost.

SGT Dingle Berry12/20/2016, 3:43:56 PM2 votes

In my personal opinion, albeit this isn't coming from a supp main but a 2/10 auto fill supp player, support itemization is perfect. Supports aren't supposed to have 800AP and 1 shotting ability, they're a support role that assists with map pressure, CC and peel, vision and health/shielding.

I usually play Sona when I support and never really feel undergeared or broke if I stick to support items.