Why does Pantheon's passive block Gangplank's Q

Tworie·Aug 18, 2015·1 votes·2,082 views

I thought it was only supposed to block basic attacks, not abilities??? I think the passive description should be rewritten or make it so that he doesn't block his Q?

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RyzeReworkAug 18, 20153 votes

its on onhit effect so it means its like a basic attack it applies crit and lifesteal along with thronmail and pantheons passive, good with the bad

TworieAug 18, 20151 votes

Panth's Q can crit so why isn't it blocked by Panth's passive?

SkarSkarSkarnerAug 18, 20153 votes

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Panth's Q can crit so why isn't it blocked by Panth's passive?

Pantheon Q is an ability...

TworieAug 18, 20151 votes

Then why is Gangplank's Q blocked?

SkarSkarSkarnerAug 18, 20151 votes

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Then why is Gangplank's Q blocked?

Pantheon's Q is just an ability with no on-hit effects. "Aegis Protection will also block all abilities that apply on-hit effects, such as Parrrley or Mystic Shot".

CrettAug 18, 20153 votes

Panth's q crit still doesn't apply onhits. other abilities can crit, like garen's E

TworieAug 18, 20151 votes

Crit is an onhit effect though

so why doesn't Pantheon's passive block Pantheon's Q?

RyzeReworkAug 19, 20151 votes

crit is an onhit effect but the e doesnt make him gain crit it makes hit ability crit its still an ability criting it doesnt apply lifesteal or any of that

DreamLeviathanAug 18, 20152 votes

Well, you've gotten a lot of questionably worded answers that you don't seem satisfied with, so I'll take a shot.

Gangplank's Q is coded to function as a basic attack in almost every way, so other abilities tend to treat it as one. It's essentially just a ranged basic attack on a cooldown. That's the short version.

There's a couple other abilities that are also set up to pretty much function as a basic attack, though they have more restrictions or weirder mechanics. Ezreal's mystic shot is also set to function as a basic attack in most ways, but with the restriction of not critting. Usually this kind of ability is described as "applying on hit effects", which is probably the underlying flag to acting like a basic attack. Speculation here: it's possible that things like Pantheon's shield are actually coded as a sort of counter on-hit effect, but I'm not really sure on that.

as for Pantheon's spear, it's not an ability that emulates a basic attack or applies on-hit effects, its critical effect is just a unique mechanic for it.

JustMyBassCannonAug 19, 20152 votes

Let's put this very simply.

If a spell description contains the phrase, "Applies on-hit effects," this can technically be translated, "This spell is treated like a basic attack for all intents and purposes." Whether or not it can Crit, it will still apply attack on-hit effects (Lifesteal, Thornmail, Wit's End, BotRK, etc).

Pantheon's passive is an inverse on-hit effect. When Pantheon is hit by a basic attack, the attack is negated.

Because Gangplank's Parrrley applies on-hit effects, it is treated as a basic attack, and is thus negated by Pantheon's passive.