Ziggs is the weakest long range poke mage in the game

Tworie··7 votes·1,368 views

Xerath and Lux can do what Ziggs does way better

Xerath has better clear and damage and Lux has better CC and they both have skillshots that are way easier to land

There's really no reason to be playing Ziggs at all... he has terrible AP ratios and hard to land abilities compared to Lux's E which has a huge radius making it impossible to miss or dodge or Xerath's Q which is pretty easy to land since it goes off pretty quick and has a max range equal to Zigg's Q while also having a higher AP ratio and damaging everything in it's path... and Zigg's Q... its soooooo lame... you can just sidestep every bomb that comes your way 'cause they move so slow... he really needs higher AP ratios on his Q because the bombs are so hard to land.

also what's the point of Zigg's passive? He's a poke mage... you're not gonna go out of your way to use that on hit damage with the 35% AP ratio while champs like Diana have an 80% AP ratio on their on hit passive

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Lemons225 votes

Good? I hate champions like Ziggs...they just stall the game out with their ridiculous wave-clear. In fact, that champion is synonmous with wave-clear because he can just ult an entire wave, no matter how big it is, and just kill everything. So I really don't care to see him buffed, He's boring to play against and super boring to watch in LCS especially.

Penns1 votes

And Ziggs has a "dash"

TaoistMaster1 votes

he has a ton of outplay potential

Itadaki Seieki1 votes

How do you classify " Long range poke? "

Cause to be fair Velkoz is what I consider one to be.

Tworie1 votes

anything that has abilities with max ranges that extend above 1000 units

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

Keep the hamster gutted. At any rate, he isn't terrible at all and he is pretty new player friendly. Aside from trying to max range ult everything is pretty easy to hit.

Vexful1 votes

Riot nerfed him when Gragas W had no mana costs. Why? Because in the LCS a team LITERALLY bought themselves 10 minutes by gragas and ziggs shoving lanes off towers. The counter siege was so strong Riot deemed it toxic and boring, so they nerfed the crap out of Ziggs and gave Graggy back his mana costs.

DrCyanide1 votes

Ziggs hasn't felt good to play in a while, and his play rate shows it. It's sad, because I use to have tons of fun with the guy, but now I don't feel like there's a compelling reason to pick him.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

He has a 3 second CD Q that does as much damage as Xerath or Lux's abilities.

That's why.

And it's actually a lot easier to dodge a Xerath Q, from experience. He needs to charge it up, after all. And as an assassin mid main, when I see him do that, It's pretty easy just to sidestep and throw a combo on him.

Tworie1 votes

Good Xerath players charge up their Q from inside the fog of war where you can't see them making it impossible to dodge 'cause you don't see it coming

yeah

his Q range is that long

and no Zigg's Q doesn't do as much damage as Xerath or Lux's abilities 'cause you can't land a Q as Ziggs on anybody + his Q AP ratios suck

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