I cannot afford to pay an extra 500-1000 gold on every item when there's cancerous champions running about with this new AD assassin item.
Please, just give us back 
at its reduced cost.
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*** Or at least let us combat the new item by giving us back DFG ************
PLEASE.
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ZT Xperimentor4 votesMages in general need significant help with ad carries & assassins being played every lane. Riot give us a reason to want to play mages instead of gutting them like tanks.
Cherysse2 votesRiot should actually make Mage items better stat-wise if they are going to be so expensive.
WalkingInACircle1 votesDon't care, want my ap essence reaver.
100 ap 30% CDR Mana regen More damage
Ralanr1 votesYou already have Athenes.
WalkingInACircle2 votesRight, except its shit. Give me the one with much more ap, cdr, another damage mechanic, and I'll let you off the crappy amount of MR that only serves to restrict which lanes you can build it against.
Ralanr1 votesYou already have access to the only invulnerability item in the game, why should you have a stronger version of essences reaver for AP when you also have RoA on top of Athenes, deathcap, lichbane, abyssal scepter, and a bunch of other items that grant a lot of AP?
Should some be cheaper? Yeah. But you don't deserve better versions of other class items.
WalkingInACircle1 votesBetter? That's the same item buddy. Just kidding! 65 ad is worth more than 100 ap. Its inferior.
And yes, mages have zhonya's. Which is not invulnerability at all, but stasis. AD have QSS.
And yeah, there are ap items in the game. Wow! So why do AD get an item that does what mages want better than any item mages actually have again?
Ralanr1 votesYou know how mages can break 300 AP easy while still having a few defensive options?
That's why I don't think Mage itemization is complete shit. I agree it's a bit expensive in comparison right now, but mages have always seemed to have the better items while AD was so bad that assassins built off of bruiser items (ALL THE CLEAVERS!).
Hex the FenFen1 votesRight, but a lot of the AP items aren't great on a lot of mages unlike AD items that are generally good on any AD champion across the board. Like 
on long range APC is useless because you will never use the passive effect and 
is such a trash item there is no point in building it when you will lose more stats than gain them. 
is super situational and can't be built on champions who need an early powerspike because then they lose their game pressure waiting for it to rack up in stats. AD items, whether people want to admit it or not, are much more versatile and essentially can be good on ANYONE. AP items...not so much. The only AP items that are considered the most versatile amongst all mages are 
and 
...other than that 
is only built if you are stupidly ahead and most mages don't bother building it because of the cost. And since a lot of the mage items are late game oriented and games end earlier than ever we can't really reach a meaningful spike in power, while AD assassins and fighters are running around with their 2 or 3 completed items because the cost difference is so big.
Ralanr1 votesAD items are generally good on all AD champions?
What's true for marksmen is not true for all AD champions good sir!
Hex the FenFen1 votesThe majority of damage items built on marksman are generally good on other ad champions. Bloodthirster, Blade of the Ruined King, Shiv, PD, IE, LW, Lord Dominiks, etc.
Ralanr1 votes
: I don't see it.
: None of these guys focus much on crit.
: Olaf, Shyvana, Vi, and Udyr sure. sure, they like some attack speed.
: Nope
: Again, I don't see them building crit.
: Great for assassins, not for fighters or juggernauts.
: See above.
If you wanna argue that assassins and marksmen have similar build paths, then I'll agree. But there are AD champions that benefit more from attack speed or health than straight damage.
And really all AP items are generally good on AP champions with some items being better for others.
for example is for your attack speed AP champs like 
Here's the thing with AP champions and AP items I've noticed. They all scale with ONLY AP. They don't scale with crit, they barely scale with attack speed, and they have options to get mana while getting AP through 
(which is much better than the AD version I might add).
Then we have AP items like: 
and 
.
Runic echoes gives the lowest amount of AP from finished items, which is 60 AP. Which is also what gives on top of MR, mana regen, and CDR.
The biggest problem with AP right now isn't the versatility, but how god damn expensive it is right now in comparison to AD items.
You think all AD items are generally good for AD champions? It's more true for AP champions.
