Top 20 best junglers according to champion.gg ordered by role position

Dr Poro··52 votes·11,059 views

1 Shyvana - Devourer 2 Kayle - Devourer 3 Warwick - Devourer 4 Elise - Runeglaive 5 Xin Zhao - Devourer 6 Diana - Runeglaive 7 Master Yi - Devourer 8 Udyr - Devourer 9 Amumu - CINDERHULK 10 Nocturne - Devourer 11 Evelynn - Runeglaive 12 Fizz - Runeglaive 13 Rengar - Warrior/none 14 Rek'Sai - CINDERHULK 15 Hecarim - CINDERHULK 16 Tryndamere ** - Devourer** 17 Nidalee - Runeglaive 18 Vi - Warrior 19 Shaco - Warrior 20 Wukong - Warrior

Top 5 is dominated by devourer with only one Runeglaive champ. Note that Elise is getting nerfed next patch while NONE of the others in top 5 are getting nerfed. 6-10 Still dominated by devourer, with Diana competing for Runeglaive and at number 9 our first cinderhulk jungler Amumu, traditionally been one of the best junglers in soloQ throughout most of this game's history. 11-20 here we start seeing diversity. Our first warrior jungler shows up at rank 13, Rengar, who is only there because of his 0 counterplay ult. The next warrior jungler is Vi at rank 18.

If you list by winrate, Devourer still dominates the top 10 but you do see some more Runeglaive junglers in there and a few cinderhulk junglers with extremely low play%. The first warrior jungler is still at #12 which is Shaco.

Riot, do you think this is a healthy jungle item distribution? Devourer hasn't been touched since the sated version came out, even though it has dominated soloQ jungle way more than cinderhulk did. (Only competed in the top 8 by Runeglaive which is also a bit OP but only a few champs can abuse it while there's a lot more broken champs thanks to devourer.) In the meanwhile Warrior has decayed from best jungle item to absolutely the worst. It has received a small (and at that time deserved) nerf but all other jungle items got buffed afterwards.


Personal suggestion: Devourer: Start at 5 dmg lower and increase the stacks required to 35. End game sated devourer will be the same, but it won't be as strong on purchase and it'll take slightly longer to get sated (currently it happens around 20 mins). OR make sated passive once every 3 hits. Runeglaive: Reduce AP by 5 **OR **Give a small touch to the best AP junglers, which they seem to be doing already. Apart from Elise, I think only Diana is problematic. (Runeglaive has to be strong for many AP junglers to make it. Some are just so good that this item is over the top in their hands.) Warrior: Give back the 5 AD OR remake the item so it's not just a better brutalizer.

128 Comments

Darkwind17 votes

Nothing more to say here. Nail hammer head.

Matezoide12 votes

I blame Blade of the Ruined King being completely broken.

Vistha Kai6 votes

What makes BotRK broken is the Phantom Hit.

I had Shyvana throw E at me then ult (didn't even hit) and literally AA-Q-AA me for like 1500 damage.

Meeks0112 votes

It doubles your DPS as soon as you buy it from the passive alone. Literally do the math and see how much 8% current health per hit really is.

WutsKraken10 votes

I'll fk up any Devourer Shyv with TahmKench item 3931 hawhaw

Leaf of the lake2 votes

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I'll fk up any Devourer Shyv with TahmKench item 3931 hawhaw

Why does this actually have synergy on his kit, wtf

WutsKraken1 votes

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Double Devour

Krully9 votes

devourer vi op

RespectPlus2 votes

Q+auto+E+auto+E Youre dead

SlackerboyTC5 votes

Devourer is taking over the game? better nurf Cinderhulk Rito pls

LoLKiru4 votes

Out of curiosity, how does Devourer even affect Warwick so massively? The only notable thing it does is proc eternal thirst twice (or on-hits during normal basic attacks; doesn't work during ult though so i'm surprised he's some crazy abuse case)

That said, I recall Riot stating a few times in red posts, that they're aware of devourer being an issue, but don't know if they want to nerf the item itself; or just the crazy abuse cases like Yi or Shyvana.

Dr Poro5 votes

Mainly because WW isn't just an ult bot anymore. Before Sated, he could ult, but his AAs did little during the lategame. Now, however, his dmg from AA is basically amplified by 50%, making him a treat even after his ult.

A bad Malzahar2 votes

Not even true...Warwick's autoattacks always hit hard, on hit has always been his core build and he could 1v1 99% of all champs even before Sated Devourer. If you thought of Warwick as an ult bot you must have low understanding of that champ. Yes Devourer increased his dps by alot because items like Wits End and Bork have been core on him forever but he was in a pretty bad state after the preseason 5 nerfs.

Also what is that list based on? Cause it is neither winrate nor playrate.

youngjake934 votes

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Not even true...Warwick's autoattacks always hit hard, on hit has always been his core build and he could 1v1 99% of all champs even before Sated Devourer. If you thought of Warwick as an ult bot you must have low understanding of that champ. Yes Devourer increased his dps by alot because items like Wits End and Bork have been core on him forever but he was in a pretty bad state after the preseason 5 nerfs.

Also what is that list based on? Cause it is neither winrate nor playrate.

It's the list at champion.gg based on everything like KDA, damage dealt, win rate, play rate, average games played on champ, etc. So someone like Singed who is only really played by Singed mains at high elo gets that taken into consideration since his win rate is artificially high.

A bad Malzahar1 votes

Where is that list? Is it their performance list?

youngjake932 votes

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Where is that list? Is it their performance list?

Ya. The performance list has had Shyv jungle at the top for a long time now

A bad Malzahar1 votes

Wait...so we are judging champion's strengths based on a completely subjective list with random data now from only Plat+ which 90% of the community doesn't even belong to? Lol...

youngjake934 votes

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Wait...so we are judging champion's strengths based on a completely subjective list with random data now from only Plat+ which 90% of the community doesn't even belong to? Lol...

It's not subjective, it is automated and data-driven. Plus, even though Plat+ is only 10% of the community, usually you still get thousands of data points so it is statistically significant. And since Riot balances for Plat+ it makes sense to look at Plat+ data.

A bad Malzahar1 votes

Well fine with me since I am Plat...but you (and most of the community) are not so are you really gonna look at data like that to determine balance?

Also this data is completely shit to be honest...since when does KDA matter at all for how strong a champion is? Or how much damage he deals per game and how much healing he has done? Those statistics are all there and that somehow makes Shyvana the most op jungler lol? Is there a statistic for how much CC each jungler deals? Cause Shyvana would be pretty low there and cc is a pretty important factor to win games right?

Celeste Benal1 votes

She does wins games. A lot of games. But sorting the list by win percentage changes things dramatically. Shyvana is 13th in win rate for all junglers. And yes, it could be due to her lack of CC. Despite hitting like a truck, she still has to close range to melee.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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Mainly because WW isn't just an ult bot anymore. Before Sated, he could ult, but his AAs did little during the lategame. Now, however, his dmg from AA is basically amplified by 50%, making him a treat even after his ult.

I hate you because this is so wrong, so stupid and nobsensical.

Warwick is still nothing but an ult bot He jumps, ults. Still does nothingsated didn't improve him. he has always had a relatively high winrate despite abysmal pickrates. stop.mentioning him like he benefitted extremely well from sated, he reallydidnt.

yi did. shy Ana sis. kayle did. Warwick didn't .

9baksQuJhb2 votes

Warwick main here. So the first thing you build (unless you're the only person on your team who can build tank), is item 3153. With sated devourer, this synergizes wonderfully with his passive on autos and his ult. It's at this point that you also should have sated, and can start being able to 1 shot squishies with ult smite q. It also allows him to be very effective in teamfights and extended fights by boosting his self heal (he doesn't have natural tank stats). And since that's really the only damage item he needs, now you can start building raid boss. Once you get frozen heart and spirit visage, you can be 6/6 and still take their whole team singlehandedly, provided they come at you 2/3 at a time (literally did this yesterday when they were up 8 thousand gold), because of your great hp-based damage, hybrid tank build, and absurd lifesteal. His early game is as weak as it ever was, but if he gets rolling and gets his items moving into mid/late game, he's a goddamn nightmare.

Meeks0111 votes

Like 66% of his total damage is magical. He gets Wit's End and Ruin King a lot of games and those both proc from Sated so every second hit you gain 150 magic damage and 8% current health from Sated.

Sakura Mirage3 votes

Man when are we going to stop looking at solo queue for balance I could make the same accusation with competitive 1 out of what 60 games in competitive were devour so therefore this is only 1 source of gameplay where everything is broken in solo queue.

Dr Poro34 votes

Because... SoloQ is what over 99% of the players play? There are certain things that'll never get into competitive because organised plays ruin it. Devourer would have to be INSANELY broken for it to see play there because they coordinate as a team to shut down their jungler. This rarely happens in soloQ. Even in Challenger.

Some people actually like to play the game instead of just watching others do it.

Zone of Endless2 votes

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Because... SoloQ is what over 99% of the players play? There are certain things that'll never get into competitive because organised plays ruin it. Devourer would have to be INSANELY broken for it to see play there because they coordinate as a team to shut down their jungler. This rarely happens in soloQ. Even in Challenger.

Some people actually like to play the game instead of just watching others do it.

and 99% of players are plat and below. You rarely see devourer jungler in diamond + unless it's shyvana.

And that's the main gripe about Devourer/Feral Flare is that it create a whole new meta in low elo only

Downfall1 votes

98%*

Pale Pirate1 votes

Challenger is 0.02%. And about 10-30% of challengers ever play competitively?

Downfall1 votes

Above plat is also Diamond, not just challenger. Diamond and above is approximately the top 2% of players.

LegacyDAP1 votes

.006% chance to be in the LCS.

Orangesilk13 votes

Except that the page that the OP got this data from, which is champion.gg uses only plat+ data, so yeah, top 10 junglers in plat+ ranked are devourers.

BuzzinTate1 votes

So youre saying things slip by in solo que because theres slightly less communication?

but i have to say it is really hard to play league lately when the champ pool seems to be only 35 large

and everytime you go "off meta" (ie poppy top) do well in lane, and get 2 kills in 10 minutes the game falls apart because shyv comes around level 6 with devourer and you literally cant do anything.

On the other hard, i played a round of shyv with dev and i was surprised by it. I farmed up until level 14 without ganking anyone (unlss it was situational) and the fed lee sin tried to kill me by red and i literally just devoured him.

Zone Laser3 votes

Extended list: 21. Ekko
22. Sejuani 23. Trundle 24. Khazix 25. Aatrox 26. Volibear 27. Jax 28. Poppy 29. Gragas 30. Nunu 31. Skarner 32. Lee sin 33. Fiddlesticks 34. Pantheon 35. Malphite 36. j4 37. Nautilus 38. sion 40. Olaf 41. Zac 42. Rammus

Poor armadillo he came in last.

Zone Laser3 votes

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Poor armadillo he came in last.

Luckily riot took notice and devised a brilliant plan. They thought to themselves why not screw over every other person who builds thornmail then buff his kit thornmail. That way he will have almost a monopoly on the adc killing themself play style.
It would surely not make him last anymore

Balance pats

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

The funny thing is that there is, overall, a pretty good balance of jungle enchantments in that list.

Devourer - 8 Cinderhulk - 3 Warrior - 4 Runeglaive - 5

Dr Poro4 votes

Yes, because I extended it to 20 to show that there are indeed warrior junglers. If I stopped at 15, there'd be only 1 Warrior jungler. Devourers are also concentrated at the top of the list.

Abyssphere3 votes

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The funny thing is that there is, overall, a pretty good balance of jungle enchantments in that list.

Devourer - 8 Cinderhulk - 3 Warrior - 4 Runeglaive - 5

Well that's always going to happen once a list gets to a certain point unless there's just more junglers of a certain type than there are of junglers of another. But you can see how the Devourer junglers occupy almost all the top spots, while the Warrior ones occupy the bottom ones.

ArkenStorm2 votes

wait tryndamere is top 20 jungler now? wow.

Davy Crockett2 votes

TFW jax and skarner arent in top 20

Power Cosmic1 votes

Sad that Elise is getting nerfed so soon. Also, Kayle jungle is weak in my opinion because he can not cover lanes bc he needs stacks, and he cant gank because of his kit. I would rather have a Vi, Hec, or Rek anytime. Also surprising Runeglaive Malphite isn't on this list.

Dr Poro12 votes
  1. Kayle is female
  2. She's anything but weak. Her ganking potential may be weaker as she doesn't have hard CC, but her ult combined with a full offensive build is just broken. She can melt a whole team in the duration of her ult if she's not CCed. She usually 2 hits squishies.
Power Cosmic3 votes

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  1. Kayle is female
  2. She's anything but weak. Her ganking potential may be weaker as she doesn't have hard CC, but her ult combined with a full offensive build is just broken. She can melt a whole team in the duration of her ult if she's not CCed. She usually 2 hits squishies.

All true, but her team has to get through laning to get to that point. Not only does she not have hard CC, she has no gap close.

TotalJerk3 votes

And lets not forget the 40% AoE SLOW EVERY AUTO when she buys Rylai's which no one seems to ever note. Imagine if Frozen Mallet had Rylai's stats, but was AD. That's what that shit is like on Kayle.

Poske1 votes

Some stuff just feel wrong

Lee sin Gragas and sejuani are not in top 20 thats hilarious

Also warwick is 3rd? LOL yi and xin are definetly better then him

Devourer trynda is 16th WHAT?

Dr Poro3 votes

You prefer listing on winrate alone? WW will be #1 and tryndamere #14. Gragas and Lee Sin have respectively the second and third LOWEST winrates of all junglers. (Note these data are from ranked Platinum+ games) I think your idea about which champs are strong is outdated.

Poske1 votes

Outdated No .... its more like Lee sin is highskillcap hence why he has low winrate Gragas is most complex tank jungler in the game WW is just bad pick compared to other devourer stuff

You took into count only winrates

Dr Poro3 votes

No, champion.gg takes a lot of information into account for performance. You complained about the list for being bad. I assumed that was because it wasn't based on one solid statistical number. So I decided to give the most obvious one: winrate.

Note that this list is about soloQ, not LCS. Lee Sin and Gragas have been nerfed into oblivion because of their power in the LCS. In solo Q, they're now suboptimal picks. How can you argue that WW is a bad pick if he has the highest winrate in platinum+ while having an average play rate?

Zone Laser1 votes

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Lee sin is highskillcap hence why he has low winrate

Statistics are taken from plat+ tho but interestingly enough he still has the highest play percent despite being a low performer. This could mean that even in high elo people who aren't the most experienced with him play lee sin for entertainment. Ofc if we look at another swag champion vayne she is the most played adc and with a high skill cap. Yet her winrate and position among adc is vastly higher than lee sin. So to be honest i think it's more likely that lee sin isn't that good.

Riot is at least starting to address this though. Maybe with his ult change we can see AD lee sin next to wombo combo champs. fingers crossed

gaby1best1 votes

Why is everyone bitching about devourer but no-one bitched about cinderhulk at the peak of the tank meta? You wanna know why? Cause you can't make the difference between tanks and carries. Most of the champs who buy devourer are carries, it's their job to CARRY and to DEAL DAMAGE. Don't come up with an excuse such as 'devourer op' just because you can't deal with them.

Calibretto93 votes

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Why is everyone bitching about devourer but no-one bitched about cinderhulk at the peak of the tank meta? You wanna know why? Cause you can't make the difference between tanks and carries. Most of the champs who buy devourer are carries, it's their job to CARRY and to DEAL DAMAGE. Don't come up with an excuse such as 'devourer op' just because you can't deal with them.

Bro, how can the words "no-one bitched about cinderhulk" even come out of you? These forums were a cesspit of toxicity regarding Cinderhulk. EVERYONE was bitching about Cinderhulk. There are entire libraries of gifs and memes making fun of tank-meta due to Cinderhulk. Notice Cinderhulk gets nerfed and tank meta is suddenly disappearing?

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