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So why has Darius not been nerfed yet?

After3perma··12 votes·3,634 views

Very high play rate and very high win rate in high elo. Has a 95% pick/ban in Korea LCK. He has an overloaded kit and abuses Conqueror better than any other champion. Meant to be an early to mid game champion that is supposed to fall off late game but doesn't.

Let's see his kit and how overloaded it is

Dot bleed which he can transfer to any target at 5 stacks Gets free AD at 5stacks (30-230 free AD) Upto 36% missing HP heal 90% slow with auto attack reset and attack range extend and deals extra auto attack damage Pull multiple targets at standard ADC range with broken hitbox Free Armor Penetration True dmg nuke which resets on kill

He has too much in the kit.

What I want to see changed is: I want the amount of AD he gets from the passive to be reduced to 15-160AD. He should not be allowed to get 4000gold worth of AD for free that is bullshit.

His Q cooldown and mana costs needs to be increased. Right now, his Q mana cost is 30mana every rank, so he can just spam this off cooldown and it doesn't hurt him or the mana pool one bit.

Lower the missing HP heal on his Q back to 30%.

W slow reduced to 75%.

Fix his ridiculous broken E hitbox. It is already at an unforgivable range at 450, but it seems to pull in targets further than the animation. This needs to be fixed.

Let me know what you guys think because Darius is a serious problem in this game nowadays.

Plus conqueror is a problem in this game. Meant to be an anti-tank keystone, but when you got these types of champions taking it every game and destroying tanks and squishies there is a serious problem.

33 Comments

Ralanr6 votes

Now if you wanted to nerf a champion, one change is usually needed. Suggesting a bunch of nerfs and not saying only use one makes people think you wanna gut the champ.

After3perma2 votes

When decide to buff and buff one champion even though the community have been complaining, then a string of nerfs is needed.

Ralanr2 votes

No. No it is not.

Eedat3 votes

If you actually think Darius needs all those nerfs you have absolutely zero clue what the fuck you're talking about

Just 4 Memes4 votes

Have you ever looked at the trail of buffs that Darius gets? Someone in Riot must main him. I used to complain about that champion all the time, and people always use the excuse that you can easily kite him. I eventually gave up after I noticed he continued to get buffs regardless of his insane ban and pick rates.

After3perma3 votes

Can't kite a Legend:Tenacity, merc treads, Flash Ghost and Nimbus Cloak Darius

Just 4 Memes3 votes

It seems that the agenda Is to make sure Darius can destroy you if he gets to you. And to make sure he has the tools to get to you, and keep you in range for him to nuke you. Doesn't seem very healthy to me, but no one ever listened to me either so I gave up.

Malak2 votes

Yea and in your eyes I’m sure wukong is healthy

Just 4 Memes1 votes

He is. You know what is not healthy? The Stormrazor. If Wukong is built full damage, what do you expect to happen? That he would full combo a squishy and they wouldn't die? He is tough to deal with only if he is given the chance to get items. if you play a strong early jungler against him, or a lane bully like Darius you can punish and set him back quite a bit. I really don't know why people cry about Wukong doing well mid-late game when he can be punished so hard early game.

NY643 votes

For me, I wish he wouldn’t be able to pull through minions during the early game so I could farm without losing all my health because he put me in a bad position. I guess I also wish his E did not slow afterwards, he doesn’t need it since his W already has a slow.

Wolf and Gun3 votes

One doesn't just nerf a God-King.

[sg-jinx]

D357R0Y3R3 votes

Darius overloaded proced to list the kit of a champ

didn't see a post like this since a long time thank you op

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

Darius has a win rate 48.84% for Platinum+ players

Just 4 Memes1 votes

He has a 48.9% wr in 8.13 Platinum elo. He isn't unbalanced. He is just very oppressive in lane. I am biased though, in that I main Wukong Top, and Wukong is easily bullied.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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He has a 48.9% wr in 8.13 Platinum elo. He isn't unbalanced. He is just very oppressive in lane. I am biased though, in that I main Wukong Top, and Wukong is easily bullied.

yes wu is bullied in lane, wukongs strongest role currently is jungle. but u are right he isnt unbalanced per say but a strong ass lane bully if you make a mistake he will kill you easy , this is coming from a otp maokai top laner who faces him all the time but i win my share of lanes and games vs darius

saltran1 votes

While I agree with you and I don't think that he's extremly strong it's needed to say that he has a huge 15.7 pickrate overall and top a 14.4 pickrate that is the most picked toplaner at Plat and + right now.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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While I agree with you and I don't think that he's extremly strong it's needed to say that he has a huge 15.7 pickrate overall and top a 14.4 pickrate that is the most picked toplaner at Plat and + right now.

he is what he is, he has clear weaknesses , but in a melee/bruiser/ vs tank match up he is a very very hard lane. with his kit + conqueror he is nearly an auto win in lane with out influence from junglers.

but winning lane dont mean winning game. he has a high pick and ban rate , i think the majority of his power comes from conqueror and getting more free true damage + ad from it which scales with his passive, ult and entire kit

Kelg2 votes

Juggernauts are supposed to scale so he's not really supposed to be an early game champ

MrFawknSunshine4 votes

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Juggernauts are supposed to scale so he's not really supposed to be an early game champ

well darius has always been a lane bully whos biggest impact in game is typically mid game liek most juggernauts

0 Hogapu4 votes

he literally wins every single 1v1 at level one though

Eedat1 votes

Juggernauts are supposed to scale so he's not really supposed to be an early game champ

Lulwut? You're talking about one of the classic win lane lose game champs. Win lane lose game was practically Darius' motto for years. Base stats don't make a champ a scaling champ. Look at the classic ADCs. Horrible base stats and growth, high scaling. Look how many years it's taken to make juggernauts not completely worthless lategame lul

Rexxiee1 votes

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Lulwut? You're talking about one of the classic win lane lose game champs. Win lane lose game was practically Darius' motto for years. Base stats don't make a champ a scaling champ. Look at the classic ADCs. Horrible base stats and growth, high scaling. Look how many years it's taken to make juggernauts not completely worthless lategame lul

Its been a long time since champs like darius or garen have been win lane lose game champs, living in the past a bit much?

Vlada Cut2 votes

You know. With old Aatrox I'd cry when facing Darius because it was a skill relliant match uo but now new one smacks him hard. The point is? He has counterplay. Stop whinning about him.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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You know. With old Aatrox I'd cry when facing Darius because it was a skill relliant match uo but now new one smacks him hard. The point is? He has counterplay. Stop whinning about him.

lol that all the boards are people crying over champs they dont auto win against. i am a otp maokai top lane and i face darius lots of times. he has an advantage in lane but i win lane and win game more then i should as maokai vs darius. people dont wanna learn the game they wanna complain til shit they find difficult or "anti fun" is nerfed to trash so they can faceroll the keyboard and auto win.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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lol that all the boards are people crying over champs they dont auto win against. i am a otp maokai top lane and i face darius lots of times. he has an advantage in lane but i win lane and win game more then i should as maokai vs darius. people dont wanna learn the game they wanna complain til shit they find difficult or "anti fun" is nerfed to trash so they can faceroll the keyboard and auto win.

I know... Same happened to me when I used to gulp be a Garen one trick when I was newer to the game. I still do decent against Doggyus as Camille tho, even tho it's still an unpleasant laning phase. T_T

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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I know... Same happened to me when I used to gulp be a Garen one trick when I was newer to the game. I still do decent against Doggyus as Camille tho, even tho it's still an unpleasant laning phase. T_T

lol the two most anti fun lanes for me is teemo and donger in top. with the rune changes ( not able to have my old rune set up vs lanes like this ) there is no way for me to even come out even but its part of the game, you win some you lose some

GodlyBane1 votes

good question

ISLAMICWARRIOR991 votes

Darius literally doesn't exist if hes behind and isn't hard to beat if you kite as a team.

Lonesome Wild1 votes

Buff Darius actually. Needs his old Q back.

Trivictorman1 votes

Just A bronze Crying About Darius matchup xD

Rocnation981 votes

Because his kit is not overloaded, he still lacks mobility & solid waveclear. The reason he IS a problem in pro play is because he is a strong counter to Mundo and alot of top laners & the fact that control mages and marksmen are out of meta.

DasIstNyul1 votes

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Because his kit is not overloaded, he still lacks mobility & solid waveclear. The reason he IS a problem in pro play is because he is a strong counter to Mundo and alot of top laners & the fact that control mages and marksmen are out of meta.

lack of waveclear? Have you ever seen his Q?

DasIstNyul1 votes

Darius so far:

  1. You can't kill him: he scales too much hp + have heal. Kiting? Good luck surviving being in range of his pull because same range as an auto. Skillshots? Most skillshot requires about a sec for casting, and thats more than enough for him to get close to you.

  2. He will kill you: if you are not a rammus having you W up first, you will most likely lose 1/2 of your hp against a darius at lvl1, late game if 5 stacks of passive = 1000 true dmg ult

  3. When he kills you he get's sure to be able to kill everyone else too: 1000 true dmg ult reset. Riot what the fudge

  4. People still think he is balanced: I mean, I know people are stupid but this is beyond stupidity to tolerate this champ

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