Kled's win rate is above 51% in every single rank above iron up to 59% in high elo. His plat+ win rate is 53.27%. It was pretty much the same in 9.14, now he is even more oppressive.
It is a very safe champion, needs very little skill to play. There is no valid reason for him to have 56-59% win rate in high elo while he is also being oppressive in low elo with 51-54% win rate.
letsfeedtogether18 votesNo. Revert his q buff. Dont nerf him
ThisName1sDumb1 votesNo. Revert his q buff. Dont nerf him
Reverting his q buff would be a nerf
letsfeedtogether1 votesNope. He wont be worse then he was before the q buff
ThisName1sDumb1 votesNope. He wont be worse then he was before the q buff
True, but he'd be worse than his state in the current patch. Thus, from the perspective of his current kit it would be a nerf. It's all semantics though, doesn't really matter.
Tahminatrix 1 votesIf only people said the same thing about tahm kench
preternatural5 votescan people just stop thinking they're good because they play aatrox, or darius, or illaoi? suddenly kled ain't a problem if that happens.
D357R0Y3R2 votesI see 51% win rate on opgg
xxxryzetacion1 votesI see 51% win rate on opgg
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Baron Barian2 votesHe was always a very underplayed, very situational, easy to counter to play. Kled players never asked for the "buff" on his Q. Hell, that was not even the kind of buff we wanted. So no, don't nerf. Revert at most.
And he's not safe. He's the very definition of charging into danger.
Skaarl H Marx1 votesKled has a low skill floor but he does have mechanics you need to learn (properly learning his passive and when to risk going in without skaarl). Only his q needs to be reverted as it's too oppressive and ruins his main counters. Something else should be done so he can still fight his counters. But not simply win
FSRER1 votesAh the always valid point of winrates. Because Darius loses to Kled does not mean he is overpowered or anything. Kled is a champion that can easily punish you for making mistakes and that is his laning phase. If you know what damage he can deal you will easily win lane without much effort. And since his biggest strength is early and then late game, if you ruin his early game, he will be significantly weaker later on. All in all, playing smart will win your lane vs Kled
8Belthazor82 votesAh the always valid point of winrates. Because Darius loses to Kled does not mean he is overpowered or anything. Kled is a champion that can easily punish you for making mistakes and that is his laning phase. If you know what damage he can deal you will easily win lane without much effort. And since his biggest strength is early and then late game, if you ruin his early game, he will be significantly weaker later on. All in all, playing smart will win your lane vs Kled
Kled's win rate is 55.18% in master+, so I guess the best players don't know how to play smart, you have to teach them. Also "ruin his early game" is a brilliant advice when we're talking about a lane bully.
Kled is OP and needs a nerf. Riot reaction time is pretty bad as always but they will definitely nerf him since he is way above that line ther're always talking about.
FSRER1 votesKled's win rate is 55.18% in master+, so I guess the best players don't know how to play smart, you have to teach them. Also "ruin his early game" is a brilliant advice when we're talking about a lane bully.
Kled is OP and needs a nerf. Riot reaction time is pretty bad as always but they will definitely nerf him since he is way above that line ther're always talking about.
Loving how you still don't tell us what makes him op and just generally say "he is op needs nerf". Also, Kled has a high winrate in masters because unlike most Toplane champions, he can impact other lanes too just by roaming with his ultimate. Oh also, let me explain on how you can beat him early on. Kled is all about, as I said, punishing your mistakes, mistakes such as overextending and trying to 1v1 him. Most Kled players, especially high elo ones, will rush tiamat which is a vital item early on but it also gives him a significant weakness. Pushing the waves. He will push the wave and shove it under your tower and that will make him vulnerable. You can fight him under your tower quite easily with most toplane champions. Again, playing safe against lane bullies, farming under tower and being aware if the enemy jungle tries to dive you, is the key to beat every lane bully. Also, playing something with decent engage and disengage vs Kled is also extremely useful for keeping him down early on. Champions like Riven, Fiora, Maokai, Ornn, are all champions who are extremely good vs Kled while also having a decent impact on the game.
Jhinfamously1 votesThat feel when stats and reality don't back your arguement lol.
Daddy Ants1 votesRevert the Q buff or lower the strength of the effect from 60% to 45 or 50%
Schenix1 votes"There is no valid reason"
Maybe the reason is that a lot of other strong top laners right now rely on heavy sustain in addition to their kits, and having powerful Grievous Wounds without having to waste gold while still neutralizing the power of an enemies overused Conqueror, is a pretty good anti-meta option that has pointed out the top lane dynamics that exist right now.