S Rating inconsistency

Kirius Dark·Mar 1, 2017·2 votes·749 views

I dont understand some of the discrepancies for S ratings and non ratings. Did a ranked game on my main in the screenshot and got an S rating http://imgur.com/O75kCbs

Yet on my alt here for the linked game I got an A+. I needed another S- or better to get my mastery 6 token and didnt get it with only A+ http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2437845979/235158654?tab=overview

Alt's game had a 6-1-10 KDA, died only to dive baron steal, ratio would be 16:1; yet in my S game I'm 12-4-17 for a 7.25 ratio. Alt's game had 188 CS at 36 min; S game 185 CS at 38.5 min game Alt's game 16 wards placed, 8 killed, 2 control wards purchased, S game 17 placed, 4 killed, 2 controls.
Alt's game got 1 baron, 3 dragon; S game 2 baron 1 dragon Alt's game got first blood; S game assisted first blood

Really, WTF is happening?

12 Comments

Handy Sandy Mar 1, 20171 votes

Need more kills, a lot of hec players get a bunch of kills I guess.

Kirius DarkMar 1, 20171 votes

See we havent had clarity on this. Do kills actually matter or is it the ratio? I've seen games where people have like 20-7-20 and get A because their ratio is poor but I've gotten an S on zed on my main where i was 9-1-8, "low" kills but high ratio

Warlord ScrapMar 1, 20171 votes

Ration i think. Ive found a 5.0 ratio to be around the sweet spot.

SlythionMar 1, 20171 votes

you know...most of these threads are just a "get more cs you tard" answers but this one honestly has me stumped.

Perhaps it's due to your mmr...I'm not sure if gradings are determined based on the entire league community or from your mmr range, that's just my guess though

Warlord ScrapMar 1, 20171 votes

Its based on mmr and the mmr of your opponets. If you stomping your opponets because your clearly better it gets harder to get a s. Edit: clearly the alt was a stomp so youd have to do significantly better.

MrHaZeYoMar 1, 20171 votes

How many wards did you lay down?

Kirius DarkMar 1, 20171 votes

Alt's game 16 wards placed, 8 killed, 2 control wards purchased, S game 17 placed, 4 killed, 2 controls.

RákãñMar 1, 20171 votes

Lets see the problem is.

~ I see the Damage dealt to champions is low. In comparison to the enemy team. Their lowest team member did more total damage to champions than you. And Hecarim players tend to do tons of damage and carry the games.

~ You only placed 16 wards in a 40ish minute game. That is bad, you ward count needs to be on par with supports. As the Zyra got 33 wards placed.

~ You did not score any double, triples, or anything higher.

~ Your CS count is to low. It should been higher if you were participating on taking towers out. As it will naturally rise when pushing lanes.

~ Your participation is low. There a team kill of 41, and you only got credit for 16 of those kills.

~ Even if your team got the baron/dragons/towers, did you get the kill/assists on those?

In my view, in terms of stats, only one has the best chance getting S rank is your team's Ashe . Everyone else did poorly as she carried in terms of stats.

Kirius DarkMar 1, 20171 votes

Damage dealt shouldn't be part of the criteria since that's hugely based on what the others on your team and theirs pick. Should be solely on your champ pick and performance a. So if my team picks all hard carries who do loads of damage while I provide the CC and initiation, I should be punished? b. If the enemy team doesn't pick durable champs for us to slug it out I should be punished? In my alt game they had all squishies so after a charge and Q plus whatever damage my allies put out the champ is dead, whereas in my S game they had a Sej and Singed where we'd slug it out racking up the damage to enemy champ stat, walk away, heal up and do it all over again.
Wards don't matter here. My S game placed 1 more ward than the alt game getting A+. A single ward shouldn't be the difference between A+ and S skipping over S- entirely. Also I'm not a support so I don't think that matters as much where supports get graded more on wards rather than CS where other roles get graded on CS more. So if I take a sweeper and stop placing wards I'm going to get punished? Doubt that, especially since junglers often swap for the sweeper and I killed more wards on the alt game than the S game.
Double, triple, quad, penta does fuckall for grades. I've gotten those before and still can get bad ratings
Did you even compare the stats or read my post? My alt game had MORE CS than the S game at a lower game time
Kill participation also sounds like more bullshit. If I split push with massive CS and a good kill ratio I can and have gotten an S even if I wasnt in any teamfight
Was at all baron and dragons with smite killing blow for both games other than 1 Ashe dragon killing blow on alt.

Not saying you're wrong in many of these since we really have no clarification from RIOT, other than the obvious ones where my game here did better than the S graded one,

RákãñMar 1, 20171 votes

I toyed around with my matches where I get S ranks in similar situations. I find that every factor plays a part. It doesn't do much, but it help. A friend of mine even ask on what point should he be focusing, which I replied with this. ~These are numbers/goals you need for at least 25-30 minute games. Which number varies more as the game drags out and what champions and role you playing them on.

5-10 kills per deaths / 10-15 assists per death. (General idea, but inconstant) Good fight participation (Assists are very good.) 250-300 CS (Even if you're a JG, as you will be pushing waves mid-late game.) 20-25 wards (Always ward.) 5-15 wards destroyed (You can easily get this by killing control wards.) 5 control wards (Always try to place more down.) Objective control/participation (Dragons, Towers, Baron, Rift, shutdowns.)

All I know, that he found getting easier time on getting S ranks while putting more effort on getting the minor stuff in too. but I you get more consistent S ranks on doing better in general over your ally and enemy teams too. I feel that every factor plays a part.