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Vladimir is winning time bomb, just repair him.

RaQqa··3 votes·1,880 views

Just everytime i play vs Vladimir its so HARD to win and it really doesn't matter if he is stomped, If I don't end game before 25 min its gg everytime. He just builds item 3152 item 3158 +25% cdr from runes and boom, around 8 lvl he just has 40% cdr. He is unkillable, if he don't make mistakes. Also his passive is stupid broken, vlad can just rush second item item 3089 and have 2.5k hp. He is easier to deal with at top because a lot of bruisers has shields, dashes, lifesteal etc, to deal with his sustain, but on mid, if someone plays well, he is a nightmare to a whole team. He is likeYasuo no matter how bad u were doing, with a time u gonna just stomp, even with a better effect.

Singed had similar passive but instead his mana was converted to his hp if I am right. But guess what? IT get DELETED, But 1k free hp at late game is just not deleted. I would be happy if his W would get 15s more cd , so with 45% cdr it would be like 7 s more, because on 5th rank with 45% cdr he has 8 s cd. He can just engage 1v5 Press R heal with Q use e+w combo, heal again with Q in the meantime and item 3157 and just press W again to go back or just to make another braindead combo. Just give others time to actually deal some dmg to him, because he is just healing insane amounts, he is dealing tons of dmg,is tanky and also invulnerable for a long time. Many people will criticize me because W is maxed last, but at lvl 15 your W has 12 s cd at 3rd rank , and the truth is u can just mix the points with e, and max it later. Dependant on what u really need more, in 2 points of e u will loose 2s cd and 60 dmg, E cd is short anyway.

Or other option is to totally change his passive, i won't really mind if he will heal more because he will be less tanky, and actually easier to burst.

Message to any vlad defender, i just don't even suggest his winratio because its just mainly made by players who plays maybe 5+ games with him or less. Look his winratio with game lenght. Also his 4th ban rate at mid suggest something, that he is feared platinum+, If not counting Zed Yasuo bans, which are just made really because players are afraid that they will feed in their team, or annoying to play against, he would be 2nd in ban rate for sure.

30 Comments

Infernape3 votes

Vlad's biggest weakness is %HP damage and Grievous Wounds. While he has a ton of HP, he doesn't usually build any resistances apart from Zhonya's and maybe Banshee's.

Jamaree2 votes

How does one lose to Vlad as Rumble? Side note, how you gonna say ignore win rate when you lost to him, while itemizing poorly mind you, when you are playing a champion you clearly aren't practiced on?

RaQqa1 votes

Dude, i was playing against garen, and was ganked 10 times by heca, our jax went aftershock and overall all lanes were shit. Im just talking about vlad overall, just this is my opinion about him, after playing a lot of games vs him, not especially 1v1 on lane vs him.

Jamaree2 votes

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Dude, i was playing against garen, and was ganked 10 times by heca, our jax went aftershock and overall all lanes was shit. Im just talking about vlad overall.

Why are you even complaining about Vlad then and not the 8/0 Garen or the 6/0 Hec?

Where is even room to argue in your post, you are basically saying if you don't agree with me, you are wrong and if you play Vlad and don't agree with me, you are just a defender.

Yes, if Vlad gets to late game, he is an absolute terror, that is what hyper scaling champions get to do, what you said here is no different then Vayne, Nasus, or hell Veigar who can LEGITIMATELY one shot you with a single spell, none of those taken down in a fraction of a second through a full rotation, no, Veigar will just straight up walk up to you, and press R, and with enough time, you will literally just die, period.

And can we please for the love of god stop writing out champion's kits while giving them the best of the best items and scenarios, newsflash, there isn't a single champion that isn't broken if you put them in the best of the best of their dream scenarios and items.

CrazyMonkeyCZ

Veiger - squishy as sponge, non mobile Nasus kiteable af Vayne - is bullshit, every one is complaining about her Rage blade + W synergy

Vlad - extremely safe laning phase, untargetable, mobile, AoE dmg, sustain

Hurry up, start abusing him again to get to your dia.

Jamaree3 votes

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Vlad - extremely safe laning phase, untargetable, mobile, AoE dmg, sustain

Vlad's laning phase is only safe if you don't engage in him at all.

His untargetable is good, will give you that.

He is nowhere near as mobile as you think, dude's slow as fuck until you get items and you are basically forced to get phase rush, actually play him and see how slow he is.

Yeah, he has AoE damage, what about it?

Yeah, that is indeed what his kit does.

CrazyMonkeyCZ1 votes

Once he uses his W, he can just switch to pussy mode(sitting back/under tower and since his wave clear sucks, it's unlikely for enemies to freeze anyhow) and that's it you can't touch him(talking about mid, top lane is probably different story, but I don't play there anymore, so I'm talking about mid Vlad).

I actually mained him for while and I never had problem to catch my opponents, expect Singed, Hec and early on Ekko with proced passive, Ryze, Zilean with W and Kennen in E(proly more I don't remember now). I stopped bcs he wasn't entertaining for me.

Anyway my points were that he has not weak early game, he has really good scaling, enormous sustain, over the top survivability, he will catch almost every one, while putting out extreme AoE dmg.

Am I biased? Clearly. Am I right? Partly for sure.

Jamaree2 votes

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Once he uses his W, he can just switch to pussy mode(sitting back/under tower and since his wave clear sucks, it's unlikely for enemies to freeze anyhow) and that's it you can't touch him(talking about mid, top lane is probably different story, but I don't play there anymore, so I'm talking about mid Vlad).

I actually mained him for while and I never had problem to catch my opponents, expect Singed, Hec and early on Ekko with proced passive, Ryze, Zilean with W and Kennen in E(proly more I don't remember now). I stopped bcs he wasn't entertaining for me.

Let me guess, you aren’t gonna show us this account where you mained him right?

Anyway my points were that he has not weak early game, he has really good scaling, enormous sustain, over the top survivability, he will catch almost every one, while putting out extreme AoE dmg.

Am I biased? Clearly. Am I right? Partly for sure.

When you use broad general terms like that of course you are right, but he is nowhere near as powerful as you make him out to be an his average win rate across all elos showcases that.

RaQqa1 votes

Seriously, I didn't even make a post about vlad because I lost vs him on lane, I even menaged to win vs him and close games tons of times. AND THIS RUMBLE GAME IS NOT EVEN THE POINT, because i wasnt playing against vlad on lane. SO WHY ARE U TELLING ME ABOUT THIS GAME, it was just a BG shit happend. AS I SAID BEFORE, Its my overall opinion about vladimir, with countless games played vs him. SO WHY U ARE TELLING ME ABOUT RUMBLE VS VLAD MATCH UP AND WHINING , sorry for capslock.

Im not whining about garen, because honestly i was fine on lane vs him, just get ganked by heca only, because my other lanes were loosing on its own. I even dont have anything to whine about heca or garen, they are easy to counter or play vs. just Told my opinion about vlad, got it ?

letsfeedtogether1 votes

How tf is vlad mobile

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

i think the correct term he meant was his get out of jail free sanguine pool.

CrazyMonkeyCZ

After 2 stacks he gets ms, phase rush, spell binder, ghost is probably overkill. He is fast af.

letsfeedtogether1 votes

His q ms isnt reliable and phase rush is s rune. Not built in mobility~~~~

CrazyMonkeyCZ

So? He is still mobile bcs of that. And even when taking non dmg rune, he can still oneshot squishes with two items.

letsfeedtogether1 votes

so what? why should he get nerfed because 1 rune page? so if i wanna play something that isnt it i get punished 2? why

Jamaree1 votes

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Seriously, I didn't even make a post about vlad because I lost vs him on lane, I even menaged to win vs him and close games tons of times. AND THIS RUMBLE GAME IS NOT EVEN THE POINT, because i wasnt playing against vlad on lane. SO WHY ARE U TELLING ME ABOUT THIS GAME, it was just a BG shit happend. AS I SAID BEFORE, Its my overall opinion about vladimir, with countless games played vs him. SO WHY U ARE TELLING ME ABOUT RUMBLE VS VLAD MATCH UP AND WHINING , sorry for capslock.

Because I assume that you lost to Vlad and made this post, it’s why like 99% of QQ post are made here “this champion beat me, he must be OP.”

Im not whining about garen, because honestly i was fine on lane vs him, just get ganked by heca only, because my other lanes were loosing on its own. I even dont have anything to whine about heca or garen, they are easy to counter or play vs. just Told my opinion about vlad, got it ?

That’s fair, but people are still going to call you out if you just baselessly whine about a champion.

CrazyMonkeyCZ

https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=Opss Not the best farming, neither vision score. I used early MMR bullshit to climb to Dia and I'm not playing him on Dia lvl probably, but still had few good games.

I'm probably too biased tbh. I think he is strong, but there are bigger problems. He is probably more frustrating than over powered.

Statics > emotions

MB

Jamaree1 votes

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https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=Opss Not the best farming, neither vision score. I used early MMR bullshit to climb to Dia and I'm not playing him on Dia lvl probably, but still had few good games.

I'm probably too biased tbh. I think he is strong, but there are bigger problems. He is probably more frustrating than over powered.

Statics > emotions

MB

Can you post on that account here please, some definite proof on the matter, and that’s fine, he does have frustrating shit in his kit, I will give you that, but he also has weaknesses and its shows in a below average to average win rate

CrazyMonkeyCZ

No, I can't, I was perma banned for inappropriate jokes(racist, sexist :/). You don't have to believe me, it's ok.

CrazyMonkeyCZ

Oof. Coincidentally you are Vlad main. Vladimir is actually one of harder match ups for Rumble.

Jamaree2 votes

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Oof. Coincidentally you are Vlad main. Vladimir is actually one of harder match ups for Rumble.

Bullshit, that lane is a pure skill match up leaning in Rumble's favor.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/master/plus/counter/Rumble/

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/counter/Rumble/

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/counter/Rumble/

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/gold/counter/Rumble/

Rumble is a low CD lane bully that isn't hampered by mana or health like other champions with ways to eat his burst and can constantly pressure him to make him burn his W IF he plays well. If he doesn't, yeah, then Vlad can take advantage and outscale him, but a good Rumble is gonna beat a good Vlad.

CrazyMonkeyCZ

Vladimir has +2% win rate vs Rumble so idk. It isn't really about Rumble, it can be any champ, Vladimirs laning phase is just too safe, yeah if bad Vladimir uses his W and keep on his aggresive play style, Rumble can beat him, Rumble can outroam, but good Vlad just won't die.

Vlad has been like this since forever, as long as he will have such r%%%%%%d sustain in lane, he will be problematic and I'll keep on banning him, bcs he is in same group of problematic champs as Vayne/Riven, expect you don't actually need any skill to play him.

Jamaree2 votes

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Vladimir has +2% win rate vs Rumble so idk. It isn't really about Rumble, it can be any champ, Vladimirs laning phase is just too safe, yeah if bad Vladimir uses his W and keep on his aggresive play style, Rumble can beat him, Rumble can outroam, but good Vlad just won't die.

Vlad has been like this since forever, as long as he will have such r%%%%%%d sustain in lane, he will be problematic and I'll keep on banning him, bcs he is in same group of problematic champs as Vayne/Riven, expect you don't actually need any skill to play him.

Not even slightly true, and if it was, his win rate would be higher. If people who complained about champions being busted actually played them, they would see the weaknesses they have, but no, rather just qq about them, clearly others are at fault and you are just perfect and right.

CrazyMonkeyCZ2 votes

Prepare for "jUsT bUy GrIEvOuS wOuNdS" comments.

letsfeedtogether4 votes

Why? Because its true?

FOR JUSTICE4 votes

are you implying we shouldn't suggest buying a GW item for someone who heals a lot?

Sir Saltarin2 votes

Nerf Vladimir

letsfeedtogether2 votes

Singed passive was replaced because the passive didnt have anything to do with him. Vlad does

Madsin251 votes

Vlad is not freelo. He actually takes time to learn and the amount of things you can fuck up in a team fight mechanically is through the roof. Watching all the LCS players mechanically fail with vlad and it cost them the entire game is quite sad to watch at times.

His W takes away 20% of his current hp, his E takes away 8% of his max HP. His Q is on a 9 second cooldown level 1, his E is on a 13 second CD.

Vladimir is annoying with his EMP Q I will give you that. However it is extremely telegraphed and with his extremely slow base MS compared to other champs (looking at you bruisers) if you actually get to land an emp Q it is because of either bad positioning or their greed for CS.

RaQqa1 votes

But these weaknesses that u are telling all are covered by runes. He gets 45% cdr at 10 lvl, with item 3152 item 3158 + runes without 10 lvl he has like 30% cdr. He can rush zhnoya 2nd so he will have cdr. His E and Q has low cooldowns only not maxed w has high cd. His slow base MS is covered by phase rush and also nimbus cloak. Its just literally 15 mins till he get 45% cdr or less. Just after first back his Q has like 2-3 s cd

I guess no one of u played vs diamond 50 games+ vladimir lmao. Im not saying that his early is strong, but its not that weak. Just all what I want to say that he is not much punishable and when he get to mid- late he is just like a hypercarry. I would enjoy 16 lvl kayle more than vladimir. I would not have problem if he would get buffed early or mid game but for a cost of his late game. Also he is frequently played on lcs anytime which suggests something, but overall this champion is just STRONG on solo Que. And to add, any fail in lcs cost a LOT not only vlad fails looses the game.

Im not even mad about his Empowered Q, he can just zone with it but whatever, just his Invurnerability and overall 3.5k hp healing beast late makes me sad. He is like a raidboss, the worst one out of late game carries. I just don't care about nasus or vayne, because they are way easier to deal with than vlad. Consider that he has a 4 other members of a team, while he solo can make a fucking havoc in a teamfight. And even that there are champions that can kill him 1v1 late. He just usually outscales them in the teamfight. He is like a Kennen but with bonus 2k hp, sustain, and Invurnerability.

Any champion is not a free elo, there is always a counter to it, but ones are getting countered harder and other less. Its teamgame overall. Just every lane has a few champions that just are too op at the moment but i won't complain anymore about champion i would list here lmao.

And i don't really care but U and the guy UP are VLAD OTPS which is funny to mention xD, because both of u are saying vlad is not op but abusing him all the time. with almost 60% + win ratio, good k/d/a with 100+ games haha.

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