Thank You For the Bard W Buff (2 More Tweaks, Please!)

Draehl·5/16/2018, 9:09:27 PM·1 votes·651 views

Thank you for the W buff. This skill has always cost way too much given it's effectiveness so I speak for all Bard mains that we're thankful!

That said, and this is where I might? differ from other Bard mains, but could we see a slight tweak in his damage/survivability? I think most Bot/Supports will agree his early game burst (especially with Electrocute!) is quite strong, if not OP. But that strength is very much offset by how squishy he gets in the mid/late game. It makes him feel a little too "feast or famine" and it's not like this has always been the case in past seasons. For the majority of his time as a champion he's been a nice mix of a Mage and a Catcher that you could build in either direction based on need/playstyle. Right now he's feeling a LOT more like a squishy mage that deals damage, but can't take enough hits to viably be a catcher to lockdown/peel for his team.

Anyway, it would be nice if you could test some minor tweaks:

  1. Slightly nerf the base values of his Meeps and Cosmic Binding. Ratios stay intact for those who want to build AP, but pulls back some of his early game strength.
  2. Moderately buff his Health/level or Armor+MR/level. We're not talking about turning him into Alistar or anything, but enough that if you build defensive items you can passably play the offtank role. Not for the whole fight, but facetank a few hits when initiating or peeling, before having to back off/run away.

I hope you consider at least trying something like this on the PBE as you once could play Bard this way and many of us learned to love him as a champion during that time. Thanks!

4 Comments

Hethalean5/16/2018, 9:15:29 PM1 votes

Bard's one of those champs where his low range and squishiness has always mandated that he be a early game champion. I think reducing his damage early (even though he's easily outpoked, outplayed, and out tanked early) is probably not the way to go. He needs to get his leads early or he falls off super hard unless you're getting lucky picks (aka low elo).

He scales weirdly. Has decently short range and high mana costs (to make his passive make sense I think) weakens him without his damage.

Tahminatrix 5/16/2018, 9:56:25 PM1 votes

I never had trouble with Bard W, I think this is just a "lets just show them we care" buff.

Just drop 3 shrines down, poke enemy laners so its harder for them to play aggressive...collect chimes to regen mana....gank another lane if your adc is somehow 1v2 kiting the enemy because they underestimate the heals/speed buffs...

Rush item 3020 item 3916 to abuse your base damage from meeps….and build like a regular support for the rest of your items...

When red sightstone was still around I would pop 2 voidgates down and delete any squishy that decides to clear em..