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wouldnt it be better if martial poise was a skill ?

Knight SoIaire ·Jul 5, 2015·1 votes·162 views

this is meant to shape gameplay ... ok but if this is a passive backed up by an entire kit it does some weird stuff because kalista is punished in many ways ... both mechanical and number wise for having that

making this an actual skill with a toggle would actualy allow riot to put her better in line with other carries

for instance she already has weaker autos ... thats a proper price for being so hypermobile ... but at the same time thats an owerly crippling mechanic when it comes to last hitting which has an impact on her entire power budget

if she would have her martial poise under a button she would be able to function better as both a marksman ... and owerly mobile bastard

riot's ballance will go further ... but the further it goes the bigger probability is that they will make some kind of next gen elise out of her since her kit is well lets face it toxic i would just like to create some space for riot to create a healthier cost vs gain interaction in her kit

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Shroom JunkieJul 5, 20152 votes

And what would they replace it with? What would her new passive be? Just remove the idea of sentinels and make the passive of it her normal passive? Ew.

Her literal only problem is her E. Everything else is fine.

Knight SoIaire Jul 5, 20151 votes

sentinels are buggy as fk so yeah ... i think so

her new passive ? you forget she has 2

her w passive can also be freely moved to other button or even left intact

Shroom JunkieJul 5, 20151 votes

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sentinels are buggy as fk so yeah ... i think so

her new passive ? you forget she has 2

her w passive can also be freely moved to other button or even left intact

Erm. I didn't forget I said that in the post but ok.

And, sentinels aren't buggy. Tf you playin'? How the hell are they 'buggy'? Plus, this would mean her passive is literally useless if her soulbound isn't around, so she'd lose a whole ability if say, her support DC'd(unless she bound to her jungler in which would still be pretty useless most of the time).

And how would the toggle work anyway? What, would you pay mana for each dash? Each second its up? Would it just be free and an excuse to remove sentinels? Like wtf?

Knight SoIaire Jul 5, 20151 votes

I didn't forget I said that in the post but ok.

you forgot that she has 2 passives

you remembered that she has a third passive on her w but you forgot that she has 2 passives in her passive slot

you know ... the black spear is her passive ... i dont know whether it is listed in the tooltip but it kinda is

And, sentinels aren't buggy.

especialy when someone walks just in their sight radius and nothing happens ... ofc no elements that obscure its vision are present

And how would the toggle work anyway? What, would you pay mana for each dash? Each second its up? Would it just be free and an excuse to remove sentinels? Like wtf?

you toggle it on and you jump each auto but you get weaker autos as you put points into it your autos get more powerfull

but entire crappy atack animation and all that added clunkyness just to contain her power ... goes out through the window because riot can manipulate the power of that mechanic

Shroom JunkieJul 5, 20151 votes

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you forgot that she has 2 passives

you remembered that she has a third passive on her w but you forgot that she has 2 passives in her passive slot

you know ... the black spear is her passive ... i dont know whether it is listed in the tooltip but it kinda is

LOL So you're saying you want her passive to basically allow her to actually use her ult? Basically having no passive. No.

especialy when someone walks just in their sight radius and nothing happens ... ofc no elements that obscure its vision are present

That's never happened to me. I've seen it lag and continue moving then go back on the person after a second or so, but never nothing.

you toggle it on and you jump each auto but you get weaker autos as you put points into it your autos get more powerfull

Ew no. So you want us to pay for weaker auto attacks so we can dash? Most dashes ADD power to your AA's, not remove power.

but entire crappy atack animation and all that added clunkyness just to contain her power ... goes out through the window because riot can manipulate the power of that mechanic

She isn't clunky. I don't know about you but she was the first really smooth and fluid champ I ever played.

Knight SoIaire Jul 5, 20151 votes

Ew no. So you want us to pay for weaker auto attacks so we can dash? Most dashes ADD power to your AA's, not remove power.

most dashes have cooldown

and what is your argument here ... it already is so on live

She isn't clunky. I don't know about you but she was the first really smooth and fluid champ I ever played.

her autos are adjusted so actualy right clicking with her wouldnt be easy

LOL So you're saying you want her passive to basically allow her to actually use her ult? Basically having no passive. No.

im saying to simply change one of her passives into a skill besides that her passsive already does that on live

what kind of dumb arguments are you even throwing here ? most of the things you oppose in my arguments is already on live

i just want to switch a couple of buttons that will allow to ballance her better

Shroom JunkieJul 5, 20151 votes

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So you want us to pay for weaker auto attacks so we can dash? Most dashes ADD power to your AA's, not remove power.

most dashes have cooldown

and what is your argument here ... it already is so on live

No it isn't. Her dashes do nothing besides dash, they don't weaken her AA's.

her autos are adjusted so actualy right clicking with her wouldnt be easy

Uh, not really? She can right click fine and there's this little thing called A+click

im saying to simply change one of her passives into a skill

She only has one real passive. The other is basically cooperative with her W and R and is the only reason its there. Else its just to make her R actually work meaning she'd have no passive, and without a soul bound, no ult either. 3 skills? Fuck no.

what kind of dumb arguments are you even throwing here ? most of the things you oppose in my arguments is already on live

I'm sorry, does Kalista trade mobility for weakened AA's? No. Does Kalista not have a %maxhealth damage passive? No. Does Kalista have a passive that works with combination with her ult? Yes. But does that passive not have extra? No.

i just want to switch a couple of buttons that will allow to ballance her better

"balance" The only thing unbalanced about her is her E.

Critmaster GarenJul 5, 20151 votes

what bothers me, is that the weaker autos wont do shit.

kallista is an ad carry who doesnt build much crit, and isnt reliant on highly multiplied auto attack damage. so those 10% will hurt her less than it would hurt other carries. she usually just builds straight ad and attack speed. and then hits your team with a massive nuke from rend, when she has 20 spears lodged into you.

on the other hand, they gave a her a pretty large buff to her base ad and ad/level. which will noticably increase the damage on rend.

bottom line is, the "nerf" wont actually do shit to diminish her power. the only thing it does is remove a slight bit of damage from her autos and move it to her e. big whoop, the damage isnt front loaded anymore and shes still gonna be cancer because of infinite stacks on her e, and her kiting passive.

yes, i think her passive should actually be a toggle active, that consumes mana with each jump. similar how ashes q used to consume mana with every auto attack. maybe even increase the mana cost on each successive jump. this would put a limit on her ability to kite.

Knight SoIaire Jul 5, 20151 votes

well the last nerf actualy forced her to be viable only that way

but the nerf is still real ... early she does auto atack relying on her base ad ... so riot contains her power by denying her gold

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