Why has Riot been silent to anything related to ADC?

taleofsonata·Feb 11, 2018·69 votes·3,183 views

There was barely any though involved on ADC balance or anything. There are proof of ADC being overpowered, itemization, cheap itemization, strong stats and many more. We want answer please.

75 Comments

PurgëFeb 11, 201849 votes

because the balance team full of adc mains

PotchikirFeb 11, 201812 votes

Riot Sotere -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=RiotSotere

Repertoir -ADC http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Repertoir

Wav3Break -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=wav3break

Riot Wittrock -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=riotwittrock

AzuBK -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=azubk

4 midlaners Only 1 adc main

341123545652Feb 11, 20184 votes

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Riot Sotere -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=RiotSotere

Repertoir -ADC http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Repertoir

Wav3Break -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=wav3break

Riot Wittrock -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=riotwittrock

AzuBK -Mid http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=azubk

4 midlaners Only 1 adc main

Really neat how you hand picked only the mid laners from Riot in an attempt to trick or mislead people. There was another thread a few months ago where the guy hand picked all the adc mains from the balance team (meddler included) and tried to do the same thing as your. IN REALITY LAND, Riot employees main all roles (although I have yet to see a top laner). Just shows how far ADC apologists are willing to go to mislead people.

SaibboFeb 11, 20187 votes

I mean if you're correct why don't you post the links for the old balance team? so people can actually not be "mislead"?

Sir FuzziFeb 18, 20181 votes

I believe people are expected to be adults and realize there probably isn't an inherent bias in-team.

A lot to ask, I know. Right?

AbibyamaFeb 11, 201837 votes

We’re circlejerking junglers now

EinarUlfarFeb 11, 201811 votes

Justifiably so too!

jango9555Feb 11, 201820 votes

Because they already "nerfed" Vayne last patch

Tails9016Feb 11, 20186 votes

I mean, her winrate dropped a bit, didn't it? And it was a fairly large change, unlike, uhh....

#-5ad

BarkleyFeb 11, 20184 votes

Vayne's still totally fine. I'd even say she's still OP.

I don't think it has much to do with her AD ratios, and that's what they hit. I think it has everything to do with the broken bullshit cancer called %health true damage that needs to be absolutely removed from this game in its entirety. Should not exist as a mechanic.

ShadowParkerFeb 11, 20185 votes

I disagree. %true health damage does have it's place if done right. Fiora is an excellent example of this .
People were complaining about her killing people in 3 hits, which goes against her anti-tank nichè. So they nerfed it, and now she's fine.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 12, 20183 votes

She lost over 5% win rate and 15% play rate. That's pretty substantial

An DraoiFeb 12, 20181 votes

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Vayne's still totally fine. I'd even say she's still OP.

I don't think it has much to do with her AD ratios, and that's what they hit. I think it has everything to do with the broken bullshit cancer called %health true damage that needs to be absolutely removed from this game in its entirety. Should not exist as a mechanic.

I'm fine with her doing %health true damage if her intended purpose is as a tank killer. What I'm not ok with is her 5 shotting a tank while also 3 shotting anything that isn't tanky

CarnicoreFeb 11, 20183 votes

-5 ad is actually a pretty serious nerf for a champion's laning, especially an ADC.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 12, 20181 votes

-5 AD was on the Jungle item.

-3 AD was on vayne.

CarnicoreFeb 11, 20184 votes

Why are you putting that in quotation marks? Those were pretty serious nerfs to her damage.

saltranFeb 11, 20182 votes

Yes, and Vayne isn't a problem but the REEEEEEEEÉEEEEEEEÊ must continue.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 11, 20189 votes

Ez nerfed 8.1 Ez Vayne nerfed 8.2 Kog twitch nerfed 8.3

[sg-lux-2]

saltranFeb 12, 20186 votes

But Rito doesn't nerf adcs REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

A treespook nestFeb 13, 20181 votes

I think he means in general. ADCs have the best cost to power ratios from their items. It goes way beyond any other class and has extremely harmful effects on the game.

Sir FuzziFeb 18, 20181 votes

They have the least error, an ADC built clicks and forgets, a mage still has to land their skillshots.

The problem is levels of play. It really is a team game, as much as the players of the game would have you believe otherwise.

AirKingNeoFeb 11, 20188 votes

Oh, and what proof do you have?

ModAcademy KaynFeb 11, 20188 votes

Where is that proof then? Not saying there isn't any, but proof helps makes this thread a lot less circlejerky.

VoraciousXFeb 11, 20187 votes

A Draven literally just missed his stand aside and stood still auto attacking me as Katarina with us both being pretty fed(at the time he had a maw, PD, DD, zerker greaves, and IE while I had gunblade, ludens, rabadons, sorc shoes, and components for void staff). I did my full combo on him and he just stood still autoing me. I died, and he was still at half health. I wish they'd do something about this dipshit, he doesn't have to build squishy and can still do insane damage >>;

AmazoXFeb 11, 20188 votes

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A Draven literally just missed his stand aside and stood still auto attacking me as Katarina with us both being pretty fed(at the time he had a maw, PD, DD, zerker greaves, and IE while I had gunblade, ludens, rabadons, sorc shoes, and components for void staff). I did my full combo on him and he just stood still autoing me. I died, and he was still at half health. I wish they'd do something about this dipshit, he doesn't have to build squishy and can still do insane damage >>;

I know ADCs are the strongest class right now but show me a video clip of that please.

jmp231Feb 11, 20183 votes

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I know ADCs are the strongest class right now but show me a video clip of that please.

He probably forgets that pd reduces 12% dmg and the dmg dealt as a bleed on DD, coupled with his maw and massive auto dmg he heals a lot as well. So not surprising he died

Xerath Aim BotFeb 11, 20187 votes

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A Draven literally just missed his stand aside and stood still auto attacking me as Katarina with us both being pretty fed(at the time he had a maw, PD, DD, zerker greaves, and IE while I had gunblade, ludens, rabadons, sorc shoes, and components for void staff). I did my full combo on him and he just stood still autoing me. I died, and he was still at half health. I wish they'd do something about this dipshit, he doesn't have to build squishy and can still do insane damage >>;

Its you, not the champ. You couldnt kill a Draven that missed Stand Aside. You probably botched your combo. You also got out damage by a jungle Graves . Also you built item 3285

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

VoraciousXFeb 18, 20181 votes

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Its you, not the champ. You couldnt kill a that missed Stand Aside. You probably botched your combo. You also got out damage by a jungle . Also you built

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Ludens is a lot of burst damage on Kat, it's a really nice third item. Zhonyas would have had way less AP and little offensive damage, and even if I did have more armor I still wouldn't be able to kill him with it. I also find great success with ludens when I'm ahead. You act like it's some weird item choice for Katarina when it's original intended purpose was FOR AP Assassins. Also, of course the Graves outdamaged me. He had Dark Harvest with duskblade and crit.....Do you even know how much damage Dark Harvest can do?

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I know ADCs are the strongest class right now but show me a video clip of that please.

I don't know how to show video clips. If you can tell me I'll be happy to.

After rewatching it, it appears that despite him missing his stand aside, I apparently E'd to him in the perfect gap between him actually hitting me with it and missing, which caused me to still be knocked up and cause my W to not be used. There was a lot going on so I couldn't actually see myself be knocked up, until I slowed it down to where it was as slow as possible and still almost missed it. He threw his stand aside, I E'd to him after, and was knocked up. I should have E'd behind him to ensure it missed me but again, a lot was going on), but I did Q and ult(and for some reason electrocute triggered on the Veigar despite me using E>W(didn't go off because I was knocked up)>Q on the Draven and then ulting). Despite all that my E>Q>R before I died did less than 25% of his health, while almost 100-0ing the Veigar(because for some reason Electrocute wanted to proc on the champion I didn't even target with any of my abilities).

Sugar MommaFeb 11, 20187 votes

Tbh, been playing on PBE a lot and you will all be complaining about mages once the new patch hits.

Yordle XayahFeb 12, 20183 votes

I rarely complain about much... not worth it really [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

saltranFeb 12, 20183 votes

So the circlejerk meta will change and now all the balance team will be AP's mains.

PokladnicaZlaFeb 11, 20184 votes

Marksmen discussion will be this week.Chill Check for RITO discussions from the ninth of Jan.

KennysDreamGirlFeb 11, 20181 votes

Boi its February

PokladnicaZlaFeb 12, 20181 votes

Damn.Mb

SaibboFeb 11, 20181 votes

Buff on ADC incoming, i tell you that much

BarkleyFeb 11, 20184 votes

I honestly believe they don't know what to do about it.

I truly think its that simple - They just flat out don't know.

Yordle XayahFeb 11, 20183 votes

Didn't agree with you in a post elsewhere just now, agree with you this time. Pretty much my thoughts.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Iffy JarlFeb 11, 20184 votes

You didn't hear? Junglers are op this month get with the times man

saltranFeb 11, 20184 votes

Next month it will be Midlaners, and the next Adcs again.

Iffy JarlFeb 11, 20184 votes

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Next month it will be Midlaners, and the next Adcs again.

The circle of ~~Whatever is op this month~~ Life

Handy Sandy Feb 11, 20183 votes

"because they cant comment on things they dont have all the information on" xd

SaibboFeb 11, 20183 votes

There are proof of ADC being overpowered, itemization, cheap itemization, strong stats and many more.

links for the proofs?

Sp33d Zer0Feb 12, 20182 votes

He'll probably link other forum posts that also neglect to post proof.

DeathBurstFeb 12, 20183 votes

Riot has not been silent, for fuck's sake. Just go and read the Dev Corner, before whining....

BjørnetjenestenFeb 12, 20182 votes

Where is the proof?

Meep ManFeb 12, 20182 votes

They haven't though? You'll find Meddler discussing ADC balance in a few of his weekly (daily? I donno the schedule) forum posts.

The Minion huntFeb 13, 20181 votes

Cuz for years assassins and mages were the thing, adc were kalista, sivir, ashe, and any other adc that could use their ult to support the team till the game hit 40 minutes.

WitchQueen AnnieFeb 13, 20181 votes

The unpopular but true opinion is that they are balanced. They require the jg and the support and a frontline to truly carry. When they get fed, it’s usually dependent on better teamwork. The cheap item power spikes are a sound design choice because games end too quickly and they need to have game impact.

Again, this mythical “brain dead” 1 vs 5 adc doesn’t exist.