revert essence reaver and Essence flux passive should honestly be on an AP bruiser item

Hammermancer··4 votes·3,665 views

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Magelord's uhhh... Mageswordthingy (melee only)

  • 5% magic damage increase +MR or Armor +some Hp
  • cdr Essence Flux passive

I'm thinking about things like tank ekko, tank diana, tank fizz, galio, even shen or nautilus, it seems to me like champs like lucian could use a different item

Why essence reaver revert?

Because it was great, It was a niche item for longer games, it allowed for some AD+Crit itemization but was only worth it for CDR players. I used it on jayce in preseason because of the cdr involved.

The damage output of these crits wouldn't be too bad considering crit damage was heavily nerfed earlier in this season, we could use this for critweaver builds. With Essence reaver effectively removed in that regard, and with the triforce rework that took out crit, the entire critweaver playstyle is dead, but I loved it. I loved it so much. It was my best friend

I ran a transcended critweaver build in preseason item 3508 item 3046 item 3025 item 3813 item 3071

it just worked, it was fun, Sheen, crits, pen,

I miss it

rito i love you

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nelogis10 votes

tank ekko, tank diana, tank fizz

NO! NO! NO!

GET OUT OF HERE!

Ekko item 3025 item 3068

NEVER! AGAIN!

I'm all for reverting the item tho

Sire Hippington5 votes

I don't think Essence Flux should be on any item, it's a horrible effect that is bound to either breake some champs or be trivial on the rest.

Beast Brawler1 votes

I'm with Sire Hippington and nelogis, tank ekko and fizz were extremely toxic and not fun to play against in the slightest. I do agree that some ap bruiser items would be nice though, for the champions like Mordekaiser, Galio, Nautilus, perhaps Malphite and Maokai, etc.

Acanthus1 votes

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I'm with Sire Hippington and nelogis, tank ekko and fizz were extremely toxic and not fun to play against in the slightest. I do agree that some ap bruiser items would be nice though, for the champions like Mordekaiser, Galio, Nautilus, perhaps Malphite and Maokai, etc.

It's not that we never had any, but that the systems supporting ap bruisers were removed: item 3116 health nerfed/damage buffed. item 3151 health nerfed/damage buffed/added damage amp passive. item 3027 stats nerfed/level-up passive replaced by eternity passive (which is a sustain buff on spell spammers) Abyssal scepter lost ap then was changed into item 3001 lost aura for stronger solo passive and gained eternity. Net loss in efficiency due to overlapping passives. item 3174 reworked into a support item from mr/ap/mp5 item for mages. item 3102 changed from tank item to mr/ap item; buff to ap bruisers. item 3157 lost 5 armor and cd increased by 30 seconds, which generally makes an armor/hp item or armor/cd item better for defensive purposes for a theoretical ap bruiser.

Zac reworked and lost bruiser capabilities. Sejuani reworked and lost bruiser capabilities. Amumu still able to have bruiserish builds. Diana better as bursty diver with current itemization and scalings. Chogath no longer needs ap to deal damage. Gragas post rework was changed to incentivize high ap combos/deincentivize tank Gragas. Maokai reworked in a way that cost him agency and power offensively, defensively, and to his utility. Mordekaiser still built as a mage rather than you'd expect as a juggernaut because of a combination of itemization and damage equaling greater sustain. (Correct me if I'm wrong, as he's such a rare pick and I never personally played him.) Malphite has armor scaling and can forego ap now. Nautilus can still do enough magic damage to qualify, but struggles due to modern(ized) champions being able to outshine him in every role. Singed one of the few remaining qualifiers. Niche though.

Beast Brawler1 votes

You're right about Mordekaiser, he's incentivized to build full AP as it nets him more healing from W and better shields. On the subject of AP bruiser items, there are few and you build the same items every game, there's a glaring lack of itemization. Of course, there could always be more items and some with creative effects based off the lore of Runeterra. I'm just saying it'd be nice if there was more itemization, instead of just building Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Liandry's Torment, and Morellonomicon every game. Rod of Ages isn't even a great item on most mages anymore, which kind of sucks. It never lost the stacking passive though.

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