So Vik's winrate at Top is 53%. Totally healthy....

Ragnaveil·Oct 19, 2018·2 votes·1,111 views

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It's not like Vik mains moved to top, are running klepto, and going a full tank build and dealing a boatload of damage regardless if they build one ap item or not. And he's 53% winrate toplane by the way, destroying pretty much every toplaner known to man except Rumble, who pretty much sucks outside of lane because of his outdated kit, and Ekko, which him being played top is a rare occurrence in itself.

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This enough should be proof in the matter. from 43% in pick rate top, to 3rd. 3RD Balance Team, here's how you fix this: **Remove the mana ratio from Q Revert the Ms buff to upgraded Q Lower the base damage on Q Up the mana cost. ** In return, buff something else that would make his MIDLANE play better.

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IOffMeta GtOvrItOct 19, 20181 votes

He is just the latest mid lane champion to experience this little change, it will be addressed eventually, fizz, talon, ekko, and maybe a few more I'm forgetting have all been through this phase before, its nothing new.

Killer of Night9Oct 19, 20181 votes

Usually they swap base to ratio for dealing with this. Do you fell that they would do the same with his Q.

RagnaveilOct 20, 20181 votes

The mana thing was okay for a while, but now that change is being abused with the fact mana tank items are cheap, and his first hexcore costs less. The ratio shield in AP should be increased, while lowering the mana ratio to like, 2% of his maximum mana or something. His AP ratios need buffs, and anything that would make him be anything like this currently needs nerfs of some type.

DrCyanideOct 19, 20181 votes

In return, buff something else that would make his MIDLANE play better.

Genuinely curious what you think that could be, because I'm going to guess that at least 2 of your nerf ideas would significantly hurt Midlane Viktor, which could cause a situation where he would have to go Top lane.

RagnaveilOct 20, 20181 votes

Any of these nerfs are gonna affect midlane Vik. The buff he got this patch was INTENDED for midlane, but instead broke open the gates of hell. I don't blame the mains for this situation. Its kinda on the balance team because this chain of events where Vik came to now is almost exactly how Quinn became top tier in Top, Mid, and Adc patches ago: Keep buffing stuff that is questionable, then make one wrong move with a buff and open the gates of hell. Same happened with Kai Sa's hotfix on release (she needed the auto range increase and the supercharger buff, but increasing the ap ratios? Why...)

The team needs to consider when buffing things if its gonna make a champion a pubstomper in a lane it wasn't designed for. If Vik got certains buffs that DIDN'T make him broken, but simply made his toplane better than midlane, I wouldn't have an issue. What is happening currently isn't the right thing at all. They only know how to balance what is meta by the looks of things in the most part. Anything off meta has been a thorn in the balance team's side for quite a long time (don't think it's Meddler's fault by a long shot, this was something that spawned from the Ghostcrawler era).

IOffMeta GtOvrItOct 19, 20181 votes

yes sir, more than likely :)

RagnaveilOct 20, 20181 votes

So building like a tank and basically doing a tank's job but better is apparently healthy for a control mage. Vik right now is honestly worse than dealing with Glacial on mages that are tired of having to aim their skillshots.