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What is Evelynn's niche as an assasin?

lagartoloco94·8/26/2016, 4:50:40 AM·1 votes·729 views

Hello all, this is a simple post designed to incite constructive discussion on our favorite....succubus?...vampiress?...undead blue lady, Evelynn Evelynn . Considering the changes coming up for her in the assassins update and possibly a rework, the questions we have are simple. -What do you think is Evelynn's unique role as an assassin? -What in her current kit/aesthetic supports your idea? -What do you think can be done or changed to help cement this unique role?

For example here's how I would answer: From what I've noticed our sapphire stalker could be considered a kiting assassin, the only one of her kind that I'm aware of. Her passive Q and W propose the fantasy of a dancing shadow. Instead of bursting down an opponent, you flow around the hapless fools avoiding retaliation while whittling down a target, almost cruely, or chipping at many foes and then escaping into the night (if you're quick enough on your feet that is). However as most of us know, her current kit sends mixed messages with her other moves fitting a more traditional bursty in your face style. Which is odd considering her squishiness even amongst assassins. Off the top of my head I would suggest an e that debuffs a target and focuses q on them without having to auto for team fights. Also perhaps and/or an ult with a short dodge mechanic (rarely used but appropriate for the theme) mixed with light spellvamp to further cement this agile hit and run playstyle while avoiding seeming uncharachteristically tanky. Keep moving and attacking and you may survive. Stop in someones face and your squishy behind is dead.

Well that's my crazy idea. What are all of yours? Feel free to leave them in the comments and (respectfully) debate your points with everyone.

9 Comments

HailFire Dragon8/26/2016, 2:06:06 PM3 votes

i want them to change evelynn into a darkin. preferably into one similar to a succubus. Aatrox feeds on blood and regularly goes around inciting war and massecers in various battles across history. maybe evelynn could feed on fear showing up in places where there is a high concentration of fear causing people to increase their fear. for example when gangplank was cutting and drawing on the leg bone of that one dud while he was alive the fear he exibited would draw evelynn to the spot where she would cause either GP to go out of his way to torture the guy even more or cause the poor tortured guy to feel even more fear and pain than he normally would due to her presence.

some people dont want evelynn to have a specific lore stating she is supposed to be mysterious but i think that muddles up her identity even more. how is riot supposed to rework her into something better than she is now if they dont even know what she is in the first place. we still dont know a lot about darkins so the mystery would still be there but they need to know what she is and what she should be able to do before fixing her.

her main role should be assassin. i truly think that her entire kit needs to be focused into one specific goal instead of a hodgepodge of different playstyles all requiring different things to be successful. perma stealth is defenitly on its way to being removed in the stealth rework that is coming in the assasin rework so soon evelynn will need a new unique mechanic. i like the kiting idea the OP came up with. running circles around people you gank while you slice into them is fun way to play her and is reminiscent to her ap playstyle which is my favorite playstyle. if her W makes her freely go through walls, make her Q another source of constant damage like the OP said replacing AA almost entirely when your killing someone or her passive is just immunity to wards only and not true stealth, maybe that will be enough to make her unique idk

VoidStaresBack8/26/2016, 4:52:07 AM3 votes

Her niche is...

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She's not one.

She's been reclassified as a Diver.

Ralanr8/26/2016, 1:31:42 PM2 votes

As someone who has been on the receiving end of a few good Eve's (or because I rarely play against her so I don't know really how to fight her) I think her being a kiter really fits.

Riot apparently classifies her as a diver, but I see her as a skirmisher with a unique defensive steroid, her stealth. She goes in, combos, and then runs away before you can retaliate heavily. She has a speed boost which makes slows not very useful, so she's allowed to literally dance around you (twice I've faced Eve's that just circle around me and kill me with continuous spikes and claws. She pretty much counters Sion IMO).

She's both mischievous and malicious: a playful sadist if you will. Toying with her prey until they realize to late that they can't win, leaving a expression of despair painted on their face that will be forever remembered in her most enjoyable dreams.

This is just how I think she is meant to be portrayed and how I feel whenever she kits me to death. But gameplay wise she is weird and it's probably because of how difficult it is to balance stealth (from it being near useless in pro to being broken in bronze. I imagine Riot would want stealth to be more healthy but still respectively used in high Elo). She builds tanky because she needs to get in the middle of the fight to do the most damage, whereas her passive gives the impression of a stalker who kills lone targets.

Linna Excel8/26/2016, 5:11:24 AM2 votes

....succubus?...vampiress?...undead blue lady

One of the worse things riot can do to screw her up is explicitly state what she is and what her goals are. IMO mystery woman of the sexy blue-skinned kind works best for her.

What do you think is Evelynn's unique role?

She's one of the last build as the game goes champs in the game. I'm not sure she should be classified as an assassin. I kind of would like riot to bump her into unique so she could be a bruiser, a fighter, or an assassin as she needs to be. Her perma-stealth is also unique. She's also halfway between a burst champ and a sustained DPS champ.

What do you think can be done or changed to help cement this unique role?

  1. Don't let her buy boots anymore. IMO she should be like Cass and gain movespeed as she levels (or as she builds stats).

  2. Make sure she has a valid playstyle when going AD, AP, or bruiser.

  3. Make sure she is mid/top viable. IMO her passive makes her a great option for a ganking mid champion.

  4. Give her a new ult.

GULAG 4 U8/26/2016, 1:20:29 PM1 votes

To be an invisible asshole, gg

Liquid Sloth8/26/2016, 11:22:02 AM1 votes

I hope they dont get rid of her hate spikes... or her double attack... or her COMPLETE INVISIBLITY. Rank 7 Eve here. Love that champ. lol. Maybe they will just give us a massive skin update for her because all her skins suck. -_-

Maximum Morde8/26/2016, 2:07:28 PM1 votes

Eve's only purpose is to ignore wards.