Announced new reworks

Decrit··4 votes·897 views

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule

Garen Darius Skarner Mordekaiser

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on a serious note: i am excited for Morde, as my old main, while I am curious about Skarner and what they are about to use since his last update. And also how much they will touch Garen.

Last time they talked about reworks they talked in terms of 3 months, but that may change a lot.

Context in a comment below

26 Comments

Decrit3 votes

Just for comparison:

Latest Garen' s change was 5.7 with a change on Ult cooldown. Besides that, in 4.18 he got a bug fix, in 4.17 a rescaling on passive, in 4.12 a QoL, in 4.5 global armor change, in 3.15 a bugfix and 3.12 his VU. The latest prominent change was in 1.0.0.145. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Garen/Background

Darius before a liiitle rework in 3.03 of his ult he got only QoL and slight rescalings on range and cd. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Darius/Background

Mordekaiser got varius changes lately, mostly his W and the compensation for DFG and ult rescaling rework, but before that got untouched for a lot of time, since 1.0.0.154! http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Mordekaiser/Background

Skarner is far more intresting: he got various touches before and after his rework since season 4 and i am quite surprised he is going to get one, since he got also animations and being in an acceptable state. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Skarner/Background

Is there any rioter hre that can give context?

Matezoide1 votes

They damn better leave Garen's passive untouched, it is so awesome late game.

You literally dont have to back anymore lelelelele

Decrit1 votes

Is also the core fundamention of his anti-noobness so he can fail and still stay in lane. Guess they will concentrate more in the defence boost and add something to the spin to win?

Matezoide2 votes

I am guessing they will, at least, remove the speed loss when Garen is spinning through minions. Feels pretty awkward atm. E and Ult are too iconic, so they are bound to be pretty safe.

If they were to completely change a skill, it would probably be his W. His silence might be in danger too.

Dont really care that much for his level 1-10 passive, i just hope they leave the buffed 11-18 alone, i friggin love watching my health go from 20 to 100% in a few seconds.

NapaIm3 votes

Dear Mordekaiser mains,

Hope this rework turns out successful (Gangplank ) instead of leaving much to be desired (MissFortune ). My friend mains Morde, and he is hyped for it. But I hope the champion design concept pulls through to giving you something like new Gangplank or Fiora instead of an abomination like Cassiopeia . <3

Mordekaiser huehuehuehue

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Just for the record, Miss Fortune didn't receive a rework.

NapaIm1 votes

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Just for the record, Miss Fortune didn't receive a rework.

Visual Update with minor kit reworks. Its the same principal.

XLC1 votes

I honestly feel like it was mostly a nerf tho...

RIP GW

A Miss Fortune1 votes

After playing her in Ranked, Normals, and ARAM, I don't feel like it was a nerf. All it did was buff her early game and mid game a bit with a very tiny late game nerf. Grevious Wounds was cool, and it was really interesting to use though I agree with Riot removing it. I believe they said they want to remove it so they can nerf people like Vladimir. Because if Grevious Wounds was ever popular, Vladimir would be so useless.

XLC1 votes

GW used to be a pretty good (steroid?) late game tho. MF, even as an 'early game carry' could 1v1 most non-hypercarry ADCs (KogMaw Vayne) with it late game because it made their LS (item 3072) near-useless. Now it just feels like the game ends for MF's team after 30 mins.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Eh, MF isn't that good late game but her ultimate has like 1,000 base damage at max rank and her W passive can easily give her an extra 130 damage on her auto attacks and I believe at that point is where she does her most mixed amount of damage, so she's really annoying to itemize against.

But yeah, I totally understand what you mean. I definitely think that her late game is worse, but her early/mid game are better. She is designed to be an early/mid game ADC though.

Blastumz1 votes

Garen rework? Why? They have also announced Poppy.

Decrit2 votes

Probably they want to give garen more "skill ceiling", as they say, even i admit it worked well as a low-mechanic champ.

Poppy was announced a while ago, so i did not repeat that.

Jeddy0171 votes

Poppy has been on that list for the past year or so.

As for Garen,I'm sure it's to help him be a bit more useful in the late game.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Personally I think Garen is really annoying in general. You can be blind and still end up winning lane due to his passive, his broken silence, and It's not the easiest to gank him since he's stupidly tanky and the movement speed buff he gets is really annoying.

I'm not saying Garen is overpowered at all, but from my personal experience he needs a rework. You either play a champion that can all-in Garen with CC and gap closers/pulls (like Darius or Nautilus), or you just don't do anything to him and the lane is just both of you AFK farming. I suck at top lane and It's my least favorite role, but that's what I've seen so far.

OverpoweredSoap1 votes

I'm kind of curious about what they're going to do with Garen....

I mean his update isn't _that _ old, so I'm kind of confused why they're reworking him. (Unless it was longer ago than I remembered, which it probably is.)

A lot of his abilities are iconic to him, perhaps besides his W?

Jeddy0171 votes

Um,according to the patch history at the bottom of this page,he haven't been changed much gameplay wise for years.Still have the kit he was released with. His update late 2013 was a visual update.

OverpoweredSoap1 votes

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Um,according to the patch history at the bottom of this page,he haven't been changed much gameplay wise for years.Still have the kit he was released with. His update late 2013 was a visual update.

Okay, so it was longer than I remembered.

They did change some minor stuff with his VU so I thought differently.

idk, I'm just curious about this rework.

Rebonack1 votes

Garen has gotten one soft remake already. His E has been rebalanced oodles of times.

Matezoide1 votes

Changes to my main, Mordekaiser and to my favorite Top Laner, Garen.

Oh god i am scared.

Laraso1 votes

Welp, goodbye, my master of metal. You've served me well, I loved maining you, but it looks like it's your turn on the chopping block. I can't even begin to imagine what kind of entirely, completely, totally different champion you end up being after Riot is through with you.

The funny thing is that Fiora, one of the nicer looking champs, is receiving a visual + gameplay update - but according to this you're only getting just a gameplay update despite being considered hideous by the majority of the player base. Isn't that just absolutely hilarious? I guess Riot doesn't have even one single ounce of love for you after all. Probably the only things they'll bother to keep is your name and your pizza feet.

item 3070 Mordekaiser item 3070 May you rest in peace alongside your children of the grave.

(Yes, I'm extremely pessimistic and depressed about this, because it means my favorite champion is getting deleted)

Decrit1 votes

Well, i am optimistic about that. They were not that bad to me and for morde... well, graphically there is just too much work.

Besides, the gameplay kit of fiora looks perfect, and of gp too

ALSO: playing morde since s2

Canastus1 votes

Seeing this list is just another grave reminder that Cassiopeia won't receive a proper rework before 2030. Cassiopeia

Decrit1 votes

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Seeing this list is just another grave reminder that Cassiopeia won't receive a proper rework before 2030. Cassiopeia

to be honest, isn' t that all she needs is a passive reowrk? that looks pretty much doable

Probable is me, tought. I am no cass main, and i always saw her as the "snake mage", rather the "poison mage" many refer to.

Krizalid1 votes

Wait a minute. Skarner gameplay update? Again!?

Salt Miner 49 Er1 votes

As a person who'd played Mordekaiser for well over two to three years after his release, i'm a little scared for this gameplay update. I really am.

Still haven't healed from Guinsoo's "changes".

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